When did you do the 14:51? Was it on a track?
Did you attempt a 10K roughly around the time you failed to break 33:00?
Not to doubt your perceived weakness as you go out further...but just making sure you are considering all the facts.
What is your mile and or 800m PR?
PTF wrote:
When did you do the 14:51? Was it on a track?
Few months ago and I've stayed in shape.
Did you attempt a 10K roughly around the time you failed to break 33:00?
No, but I have at various times when I was in shape
What is your mile and or 800m PR?
4:16/1:56
Jammie, on the reals, be happy were where you are at or come to some kind of peace knowing that you'll never be satisfied and be okay with that. Then you'll enjoy all the experiences.
Remember that time malmo tried to give jamin advice? What ever came of that?
Am I Nuts?? wrote:
Remember that time malmo tried to give jamin advice? What ever came of that?
Jamin doesn't want advice. He's attention starved. He craves drama.
Not a child psychologist, but the only thing I can figure is that his parents must have switched out crib mobiles every week when he was an infant.
malmo wrote:
Am I Nuts?? wrote:
Remember that time malmo tried to give jamin advice? What ever came of that?
Jamin doesn't want advice. He's attention starved. He craves drama.
Not a child psychologist, but the only thing I can figure is that his parents must have switched out crib mobiles every week when he was an infant.
???
Sub 30 min wrote:
high school xc coach wrote:
MY BODY IS READY!
We have already another interesting case going on with Below Average. Last weekend he ran a new PB at 10 miles after ten years! JS is the deal.
Below Average is just some guy here on the boards he ain't Jamin. Like him or hate him Jamin is well known here. Do something Jamin! Follow Malmo or put up a legendary thread using the council of The Wizard JS one of the most annoying coaches of all time.
malmo wrote:
He craves drama.
What?
Your 800m and 1 mile line up...and your 5K seems just slightly slower...but it doesn't make sense that you can't break 33 in the 10K. Your endurance can't be all that weak if you ran 14:51.
Are you exaggerating for dramatic effect...hee hee? Sorry...but it doesn't ring true.
Hard to give advice if you are distorting things.
Seems like you are pretty talented.
jamin wrote:
I need to try something different. I am definitely open to DANCAN.
One of his Kenyans won in a China road race 10 k . Time 28:43!
If you had listened to malmo you'd be a sub-31:00 guy by now. #sad
jamin you should try 20 x 400s rest 120 bpm
Assuming you’ve raced the 5k a lot more than the 10k, you may just need a bunch more experience to race it properly. You can go sub 31.
I would get in some 4 or 5 mile/8k races and hold 5:0X pace. Then go get a sub 32 when you have some confidence. Repeat a bit faster for sub 31. Your training is already fine.
But we knew that already wrote:
You should be able to easily run a half-marathon at 33 10k pace.
Sounds like a head issue to me
It is 100% a head issue
Go out in 16:30 trying not to fall asleep and coast home with a big negative split.
Problem is in lactate in the body.
If he ran all-out 33 min, so starting 15:30-16:00 he will just run second part much slower.
Jamin, what is your HM PR ?
jamin is good
alex _ wrote:
jamin wrote:
I need to try something different. I am definitely open to DANCAN.
One of his Kenyans won in a China road race 10 k . Time 28:43!
One of his Kenyans won one of Kenyas
biggest cross country races , the Discovery cross country , twice. Also another of his Kenyans won the Valencia marathon 2016 in 2:07:38 . And another of his Kenyans won the Zwolle Half twice in 1:00 and 1:01. And another of his Kenyans won
the Mullys Half in Kenya at 1:01:40 and just 8 sec from world best ever at high altitude. And another…….
jamin wrote:
SUPERIOR COACH JS wrote:
Well….I have tried to reach out to you here and on Strava . But you don`t take the chance to let the Magic Wizard
coach you. On just 50-60 mpw I can guarantee I will have you run 14:30 and 30:00 at 5k/10 k if you follow and listen to
what I give . And a faster 1500/mile will just come as an extra bonus... ))) Can you try to understand that you train just wrong!
You need to do your very best individual paces in training. Now …...this will be your last chance to be coached by me for free,
Aren`t you even curious what will happen if you take on the DANCAN -system? Will you keep on like this with your unstructured training and once in the future tell yourself " I wonder what had happen if I had followed JS? "
Now, take the last chance to success !
I need to try something different. I am definitely open to DANCAN.
Oh man Jamin, do this! Win or lose, this would be the best training thread in LR history.
you had bad luck or its mental.
do 450 mile repeats plenty
and do a 8 mile run an finish on the track, run sub 10 min for last 2 miles.
so the pace is ingrained
in the 10k you just go out with 31 min 10k guys and forget about it.
you'll be a robot and just follow until it starts to hurt.
just keep going
end of story.
Problem is that Jamin can only go so long before he thinks about Ukranians. This allows him to do intervals, repeats, and short runs. Maybe he can do a long run if he's been thinking about Ukranians a lot recently. When he tries to do the distance required for 10k training, he gets overwhelming urges regarding Ukranians and they just shut him down.