I’m done with this sport

Register an account87 wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

The OP isn't the only one "done with this sport". Most of the wider sports public is. Kipchoge's sub-2 has been likened to Bannister's achievement, but Bannister's run was an historical moment that reverberated around the world; outside of a dwindling fan base of running nuts and Kenyans the sub-2 barely registered.

You are absolutely wrong.

So, running nut? Or Kenyan?

Register an account87 wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

The OP isn't the only one "done with this sport". Most of the wider sports public is. Kipchoge's sub-2 has been likened to Bannister's achievement, but Bannister's run was an historical moment that reverberated around the world; outside of a dwindling fan base of running nuts and Kenyans the sub-2 barely registered.

You are absolutely wrong.

No, he's quite right.

This sub 2 hour thing has been hyped to the heavens in the social media age by a modern multi-billion global corporation (extremely shady one at that), as well as by an ex-American president who is Kenyan (at least more Kenyan than El Keniano/Cleopatra_Jones).

Nobody will be talking about it next week, let alone another half-century like Bannister's Mile, which at the time literally was seen as something akin to landing a man on the moon.

Track is a dying sport, and it's largely because of the doping problem.

No other sport (except bodybuilding) can turn a sub elite into an elite, or an elite into a GOAT simply through popping a pill (or taking an injection). In fact, running is such a relatively simple and pure sport, that even a sub-elite like Aouita or Ramzi can become a GOAT (if Ramzi hadn't been caught, he presumably would have ran more golds and maybe broken records).

Anyone who thinks that if EPO hadn't been invented, that the last 30 years results would be pretty much identical (medalists the same but maybe slower times) are living in cloud cuckoo land.

That's why the 5K is being scrapped from the circuit. That's why the IAAF are desperately trying to seek new audiences in places like Quatar where the people are so corrupt that nobody cares whether everybody dopes or whether what they are witnessing is real or not.

rothermj wrote:

Sports were supposed to be a complementary activity to learning: Mens sana in corpore sano. We are not even in the same area code as that thought anymore...

Time to make giving prize and appearance money at road races and track meets illegal - get Trump involved to enforce this. That will clean the trash out from the sport and make it better again. Maybe letsrun can start a new federation that will overun the IAAF?!

track chick wrote:

Stay away from all of that stuff and enjoy running for what it is - striding out on the grass when the sun is rising, running through different areas exploring, an afternoon on the track in the blazing sun, a tempo with your friends that ends with a sprint. There were some amazing performances in Doha. Our sport isn't perfect but nothing is.

You can be a runner without following elite sport, maybe you'd get more enjoyment out of attending grass root events or things to do with sports development/community/coaching which IMO are more important than the tip of the iceberg that is elite sport anyway.

I'm slow clapping this.

You just did a fantastic job of summing up all the things I LOVE about our sport. Let's not forget that the sport itself is a bunch of idiots running in circles... literally. (Myself included). This sport would be so lame if I came to these message boards and the only thing people talked about was: "Wow, you just ran 12.5 times around that oval faster than you ran 12.5 times around an identically shaped oval in a different location the previous time. Congratulations!"

Obviously there are athletes who are doping but where is your proof that the entire sport is saturated with drug use to back your gloom and doom beliefs? Who do you think isn’t doping at the professional level? Examples, please.

How are all of these supposed EPO users getting away with it, when someone like Salazar, who is probably the most well-known coach in the sport and backed by Nike, is getting a 4 year suspension for relatively minor offenses? Your basically implying that they’re willing to drop the hammer on one of the most influential and famous figures in the sport, while letting a basically unknown runner like Kosgei use the hard stuff.

If you have been following track this summer and are left with a bad taste in your mouth, then I think you are watching with the wrong intentions and probably should move on to something else.[/quote]

Barry Bonds made a mockery of baseball and the careers of Babe Ruth, Wille Mays, Mickey Mantle etc.

Runners who use epo do the same. They also affect the youth of the sport who realize that they have no chance to

succeed unless they use drugs. Drug users are scum.

Best part of the sport is the high school and collegiate competition because it is pure competition.

Whereas pro track is like pro wrestling fraudsters not worth watching or supporting.

As Cyndi Lauper warned us: Money changes everything.

3hh wrote:

Best part of the sport is the high school and collegiate competition because it is pure competition.

I wish this were true....

NBA players, clean? You mean including that Nike athlete whose name rhymes with LeShmon and who looks like a chiseled monster at the age of 35+? If there are ANY athletes who I would bet money on being dirty, loaded to the gills with PEDs from their teen years, it would be NBA players.

WhyRegisterHere? wrote:

NBA players, clean? You mean including that Nike athlete whose name rhymes with LeShmon and who looks like a chiseled monster at the age of 35+? If there are ANY athletes who I would bet money on being dirty, loaded to the gills with PEDs from their teen years, it would be NBA players.

I dont think so because what advantage would epo give them....it is much more a speed and skill game than pure distance running...........o.k. maybe steriods when the big centers were needed --- but now the three point sharp shooters are more important.....don't see how steroids or epo helps them. I'm not a fan of the sport but just realizing that they may be clean.

Hence, it's growth and popularity. Whereas distance runners are seen as chemical freaks.

Armstronglivs wrote:

Register an account87 wrote:

You are absolutely wrong.

So, running nut? Or Kenyan?

We know you live in the past. You worship the white athletes from the British Commonwealth of Nations of yesteryear and everything ends there for you.

That doesn't make you right though.

Past the high school and collegiate level I'm surprised that meets even get full fields of competitors. Who in their right mind would train their butts off to potentially finish at best in 6th place in a meet full of genetic freaks and dopers? Narcissistic masochists that's who. Whoop dee doo I'm number 6! Who the hell cares about 6th place?

No he is not right, Coevett (seriously, "have rUn").

The two of you seem to think that the world revolves about mainly white, English speaking countries.

The world is a lot more than that.

Ask people of all ages in every continent who Bannister was. Then ask if they know Kipchoge, or even the guy who ran sub 2 for the marathon. Not even close.

I am outraged with the sub2 event. It is disgusting and humiliating for the sport. The shoes have taken a 2:03+ marathoner (with 2016 technology) and turned him instantly into a sub 2 runner with no fitness improvements.

I agree with the OP on all points.

I feel you

track chick wrote:

Stay away from all of that stuff and enjoy running for what it is - striding out on the grass when the sun is rising, running through different areas exploring, an afternoon on the track in the blazing sun, a tempo with your friends that ends with a sprint. There were some amazing performances in Doha. Our sport isn't perfect but nothing is.

You can be a runner without following elite sport, maybe you'd get more enjoyment out of attending grass root events or things to do with sports development/community/coaching which IMO are more important than the tip of the iceberg that is elite sport anyway.

Thanks for this one!

9ii wrote:

NBA basketball.

I'm not a fan but they could be clean.

Sure, LeBron averages 37 minutes for 82 games on pure hate.

Not defending Lance, but he’s right that sports like cycling and running get a worse rap because they don’t have billionaire owners protecting their assets.

09u8hhjo wrote:

WhyRegisterHere? wrote:

NBA players, clean? You mean including that Nike athlete whose name rhymes with LeShmon and who looks like a chiseled monster at the age of 35+? If there are ANY athletes who I would bet money on being dirty, loaded to the gills with PEDs from their teen years, it would be NBA players.

I dont think so because what advantage would epo give them....it is much more a speed and skill game than pure distance running...........o.k. maybe steriods when the big centers were needed --- but now the three point sharp shooters are more important.....don't see how steroids or epo helps them. I'm not a fan of the sport but just realizing that they may be clean.

Hence, it's growth and popularity. Whereas distance runners are seen as chemical freaks.

Testosterone, EPO, GH improve recovery, so an 82 game season is possible