And the 1500 gets even more wide open... JI for the win?
Glowing...
Alll wrote:
https://twitter.com/Manangoi_lion/status/1173551225427697664?s=19
i bett $32 in potatoes thats not the "real" reason
We knew of the injury from 10 days ago. Probably Elijah supposed to recover more quickly, but at the end the physio (Jordi Totti from Spain) who works with the group of Ouma every day understood he needed still one week before a full recovery. Of course, in this case there was no more time for an adequate preparation in order to defend his title.
So, now we discover that strong athletes can't have any injury, but injuries are only a way for covering something else…
Poor people, with a suspicious mind : if you use the same system in your real life, you don't know how to live with happyness and serenity. I feel pity for you.
Renato Canova wrote:
We knew of the injury from 10 days ago. Probably Elijah supposed to recover more quickly, but at the end the physio (Jordi Totti from Spain) who works with the group of Ouma every day understood he needed still one week before a full recovery. Of course, in this case there was no more time for an adequate preparation in order to defend his title.
So, now we discover that strong athletes can't have any injury, but injuries are only a way for covering something else…
Poor people, with a suspicious mind : if you use the same system in your real life, you don't know how to live with happyness and serenity. I feel pity for you.
End of thread. Enough said.
Renato Canova wrote:
We knew of the injury from 10 days ago. Probably Elijah supposed to recover more quickly, but at the end the physio (Jordi Totti from Spain) who works with the group of Ouma every day understood he needed still one week before a full recovery. Of course, in this case there was no more time for an adequate preparation in order to defend his title.
So, now we discover that strong athletes can't have any injury, but injuries are only a way for covering something else…
Poor people, with a suspicious mind : if you use the same system in your real life, you don't know how to live with happyness and serenity. I feel pity for you.
What kind of ankle injury did he sustain? A sprain or something more serious like a torn ligament?
i got banned wrote:
Alll wrote:
https://twitter.com/Manangoi_lion/status/1173551225427697664?s=19i bett $32 in potatoes thats not the "real" reason
Dude, at least get some new material.
Engels FTW
He's been injured much of the season. He had come back to win a Kenyan trials race in 3:37 recently.
With him definitely out, Cheruiyot becomes the huge favorite. Ingebrigtsens have a very good chance at medals.
Another doper gone!!!
My man Jakob inching closer to a medal.
big dave22 wrote:
Another doper gone!!!
My man Jakob inching closer to a medal.
Being happy that someone gets injured because you think that he's doping! Wow
kid from PA wrote:
And the 1500 gets even more wide open... JI for the win?
As long as Tim Cheruiyot is there isn't not wide open at all
What reasons could GOD have for giving Mr. Lion this injury? What are his motives? Will we ever know?
Knows Uncle Phil when he sees Uncle Phil wrote:
Glowing...
Yep he has to pull out of a championships to avoid testing positive in 6 days time for a drug (EPO) which has a half life of 5 hours.
Makes perfect sense.
Only on Letsrun!!
i got banned wrote:
Alll wrote:
https://twitter.com/Manangoi_lion/status/1173551225427697664?s=19i bett $32 in potatoes thats not the "real" reason
The IAAF, WADA, AIU etc have no issues announcing positive or missed drugs tests as shown recently with Christian Coleman and Michelle-lee Ahye.
In the case of Coleman, his suspension was announced before he was even found guilty of anything.
Christian Coleman is a far bigger star than Manangoi so I'm not sure why anyone would think there is some higher conspiracy by the IAAF to protect Manangoi.
The narrow mindedness of Letsrun posters such as yourself is your weakness. You see everything from the point of view of a middle distance fan. Look at the bigger picture. Nobody actually cares at all if Manangoi can't attend except maybe some Kenyan fans. That's it. He's not in a headline event. He's not a headline athlete. I'd go as far as to say the large majority of fans worldwide won't have heard of Manangoi and maybe less than 10% know he is the defending champion in the men's 1500m.
Renato Canova wrote:
We knew of the injury from 10 days ago. Probably Elijah supposed to recover more quickly, but at the end the physio (Jordi Totti from Spain) who works with the group of Ouma every day understood he needed still one week before a full recovery. Of course, in this case there was no more time for an adequate preparation in order to defend his title.
So, now we discover that strong athletes can't have any injury, but injuries are only a way for covering something else…
Poor people, with a suspicious mind : if you use the same system in your real life, you don't know how to live with happyness and serenity. I feel pity for you.
You know what Renato - I'm gonna speak I guess for a number of us who are sick and tired of your false logic "gaslighting" when it comes to Kenyan athletes and in particular the topic of doping.
For years and years you have been on these message boards preaching about the wholesomeness of Kenyan athletes - driven primarily by your coaching association and affiliations, and you have every "devils advocate" reason in your playbook as to why they wouldn't, couldn't and don't possibly cheat. We've heard them all;
"EPO doesn't help them they were born at altitude - why would they take it"
"Kenyans are wholesome, god-following fellows - they are too innocent to cheat"
"They are just more talented, work harder and everyone else is just jealous"
However lets be honest mate - this may have worked years ago when the popular consensus was simply the above and drug testing in Kenya was by in large non-existent and about as effective as tits on bull. But let's again be honest here - you have an invested interest in the notion that they are all clean don't you - your involvement as a paid coach and also your ties with your fellow countrymen Rosa and DiMadonna who manage a vast majority of Kenyan distance runners.
Yet the facts and reality would suggest otherwise. Kenya now sits on WADA's high alert list. A German journalist went to Kenya and basically showed first hand how comically simple it is to buy any plethora of performance enhancing drugs from ramshackle "drug stores" and of course we have the multitude of Kenyan athletes actually busted - headlined by the likes of Asbel Kiprop and former Olympic Track Coach Michael Rotich who was banned for 10 years due to corruption linked with doping. And I could simply go on naming athletes if I really could be bothered - though you probably know the majority of them anyway so what would be the point.
Interestingly the 1500m heats don't actually start until October the 3rd, 18 days from todays date and considerably more than the "one week needed for a full recovery" Of course you as a coach of such considerable knowledge and reputation know full well that an "adequate preparation" for defending a world title is not determined in the 20 or so days prior to the title defense anyways right - in fact a week of rest for an athlete of Manangois ability at this point in the season may actually be more beneficial than harmful. But again I don't need to point this out right?
So back to the reason of why Manangoi isn't defending his title - well here is the truth amico, the hypothesis that it could be drugs or anything else is just as valid as your hypothesis that it was just some unfortunate reality of a runners life - so please stop with your self-righteous "poor people with suspicious minds, your life of happiness and serenity" and your "pity" angle.
The reality is you DON'T know and neither do we. Or maybe you really do know ;-|
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Renato Canova wrote:
We knew of the injury from 10 days ago. Probably Elijah supposed to recover more quickly, but at the end the physio (Jordi Totti from Spain) who works with the group of Ouma every day understood he needed still one week before a full recovery. Of course, in this case there was no more time for an adequate preparation in order to defend his title.
So, now we discover that strong athletes can't have any injury, but injuries are only a way for covering something else…
Poor people, with a suspicious mind : if you use the same system in your real life, you don't know how to live with happyness and serenity. I feel pity for you.
lolz you feel pity for me? thats a change, usually you spew incoherent insults at me, why the sudden change of heart big guy?
why dont you remind me again on your silence regarding kiprop and kiptum? haha lolz all the way
Of course I feel pity for all people having the brain of a hen. I feel pity for who creates in his mind suspicious pictures that are not joined with the reality. I feel pity for people who want to show their INTEGRITY attacking other people with CALUMNIES without any proof, with a behaviour that, if not protected behind some nickname (the most part of times so ridiculous that already shows how much stupid is the poster), could easily produce a legal allegation in any Country and in any Court in the World.
I feel pity for people living in a mental disease, like everybody thinking ALL OTHER PEOPLE are not correct and only themselves are perfect.
I feel pity for all people who are not able to use their brain for thinking, but only follow the waves produced (in many cases) by journalists who BUILD stories and scoops PAYING poor athletes of low level who can earn some money only becoming fake Actors of a COMEDY that is not connected with the reality.
And don't continue to tell me that I denied doping in Kenya : I wrote several times that, TILL 2010, I never had some athlete asking for any kind of supplement, while today almost everybody looks at supplements in spite of the fact that they run, today, slower than 10 years ago.
So I well know that doping exists in Kenya, and that TODAY it's a risk for many athletes who, in the past, used some illegal aid. But this doesn't mean that the top athletes are not clean, that it's not possible to run WR without any illegal aid, that today the local antidoping OOC can't work (but try to understand that the number of Kenyan athletes who need to be tested, in official whereabouts, is already about 150, but there are other 400 athletes running on the roads in all the World who can win competitions but are not in top 50 kenyans in the road events, so it's very much more difficult to test ALL the athletes of international level who are not in top 30 in the world, in Kenya, than in any other Country), and at the end that everybody can be allowed NOT TO RESPECT THE ATHLETES RUNNING FAST, doubting of their integrity without any reason, if not the fact they are Kenyan.
Renato Canova wrote:
Of course I feel pity for all people having the brain of a hen. I feel pity for who creates in his mind suspicious pictures that are not joined with the reality. I feel pity for people who want to show their INTEGRITY attacking other people with CALUMNIES without any proof, with a behaviour that, if not protected behind some nickname (the most part of times so ridiculous that already shows how much stupid is the poster), could easily produce a legal allegation in any Country and in any Court in the World.
I feel pity for people living in a mental disease, like everybody thinking ALL OTHER PEOPLE are not correct and only themselves are perfect.
I feel pity for all people who are not able to use their brain for thinking, but only follow the waves produced (in many cases) by journalists who BUILD stories and scoops PAYING poor athletes of low level who can earn some money only becoming fake Actors of a COMEDY that is not connected with the reality.
And don't continue to tell me that I denied doping in Kenya : I wrote several times that, TILL 2010, I never had some athlete asking for any kind of supplement, while today almost everybody looks at supplements in spite of the fact that they run, today, slower than 10 years ago.
So I well know that doping exists in Kenya, and that TODAY it's a risk for many athletes who, in the past, used some illegal aid. But this doesn't mean that the top athletes are not clean, that it's not possible to run WR without any illegal aid, that today the local antidoping OOC can't work (but try to understand that the number of Kenyan athletes who need to be tested, in official whereabouts, is already about 150, but there are other 400 athletes running on the roads in all the World who can win competitions but are not in top 50 kenyans in the road events, so it's very much more difficult to test ALL the athletes of international level who are not in top 30 in the world, in Kenya, than in any other Country), and at the end that everybody can be allowed NOT TO RESPECT THE ATHLETES RUNNING FAST, doubting of their integrity without any reason, if not the fact they are Kenyan.
all i got from this was your typical insults and blah blah blah...again you refuse to answer kiprop and kiptum...lolz
besides your flamboyant arrogance, your next problem is your belief that you know who i am and my personality and happiness.
i dont care what bullsh*t you try to spew about kenyans this kenyans that....reality is that they have DOPED, are DOPING, and will continue to DOPE until you and rosa are outed...pretty simple. but keep ranting and raving about my sadness lolz and my brain is a hen lolz. once you can acknowladge that you have lost 99% of your credibility and stop ranting and raving your lies and excuses the better off YOU will be...remember big chief your the one INSULTING me as harsh as you can and guess what? im not drooling with anger and spite like some old cranky Italian snake is....what do i get out of calling out dopers and lying italian coaches/agents?? NOTHING? but what does lying italian coaches/agents get out of all of this? MONEY AND PRESTIGE....
but go ahead and ATTACK me, but stay silent on kiprop and kiptum...lolz