I work in a rehab where I tested patience for drug usage.... I’m going to call it for how it is, she’s lying. You will never test positive for THC by rubbing CBD lotion on. She smoked it.... you can’t even test positive for second hand smoke YET lotion!
When I was looking into using CBD I emailed one of the companies, Love CBD, and asked them about it and they advised absolutely not to use the products if you get tested because (from what I recall) unless it's an isolate there's always the chance there's enough THC left in it for it to produce a positive. I don't know why someone wouldn't contact them to ask.
XY wrote:
Why the hell should THC be a banned substance anyhow?
Cause we can't have a bunch of hippies winning everything! Keep them out.
How are people that are going to be drug tested so stupid as to not know they are rubbing on something that is clearly drugs? Not sure if she's that stupid or this is a cover up?
Justice prevails. Criminals and cheaters (she is both in this case) never win.
Lying bro wrote:
I work in a rehab where I tested patience for drug usage.... I’m going to call it for how it is, she’s lying. You will never test positive for THC by rubbing CBD lotion on. She smoked it.... you can’t even test positive for second hand smoke YET lotion!
So in fact the title of this thread is inaccurate and should be changed - she was suspended for THC positive results (not CBD). Despite her claims it was from CBD cream, nobody else actually knows the source of that THC.
Hateraid wrote:
How are people that are going to be drug tested so stupid as to not know they are rubbing on something that is clearly drugs? Not sure if she's that stupid or this is a cover up?
In her case it's both.
Forgot previous wrote:
Hateraid wrote:
How are people that are going to be drug tested so stupid as to not know they are rubbing on something that is clearly drugs? Not sure if she's that stupid or this is a cover up?
In her case it's both.
Pretty much. Sorry cynical Lloyd Flanders, JoBros, and Brawndos loyalist types but non-psychoactive CBD is snake oil, you're getting a placebo effect if anything. If she's getting popped for a hot THC level, it's from direct ingestion of marijuana. The threshold is high enough that a CBD cream – not sold via a dispensary where she would have to show ID to buy it as a controlled substance – could never convey, not even if she had covered herself with the entire tube or jar the night before. Nothing to see here, almost none of us would have heard of her if not for this.
CBD is snake oil. It isn’t regulated. It isn’t proven. No one knows what they are getting from CBD.
Use at your own risk.
BOHICA wrote:
Forgot previous wrote:
In her case it's both.
Pretty much. Sorry cynical Lloyd Flanders, JoBros, and Brawndos loyalist types but non-psychoactive CBD is snake oil, you're getting a placebo effect if anything. If she's getting popped for a hot THC level, it's from direct ingestion of marijuana. The threshold is high enough that a CBD cream – not sold via a dispensary where she would have to show ID to buy it as a controlled substance – could never convey, not even if she had covered herself with the entire tube or jar the night before. Nothing to see here, almost none of us would have heard of her if not for this.
Who tf is Lloyd Flanders?
My term for a pro cycling doper from the US not named Armstrong.
XY wrote:
Why the hell should THC be a banned substance anyhow?
We can debate that. I agree with you. But if you’re making a living racing, know the rules.
Lame.
CBD works, ask my geriatric dog.
Lots of dumbazzez around here.
(The real stuff works better, though, and Goss, you've got to be kidding me.)
If you think racing a triathlon while baked is a good idea, I really don't know what to say...
THC remains an active metabolite in your system up to 28 days after ingestion.
Flounder wrote:
CBD is snake oil. It isn’t regulated. It isn’t proven. No one knows what they are getting from CBD.
Use at your own risk.
This. I don’t get why people use CBD for pain relief. It’s totally unregulated. If we believe Goss’s story, then it’s not at all surprising that her cream was tainted. Acetaminophen and Ibuprofen, in contrast, have to go through the FDA before they hit store shelves.
Libertarian Centrist wrote:
Sensible decision by her sponsors. Marijuana is still currently illegal in all 50 states! I personally cannot support marijuana or CBD usage on a moral or ethical basis.
It’s illegal federally. It is NOT illegal in all 50 states.
And seriously... CBD has legit studies of its anti inflammatory and pain relief effects. THC is better though. But regardless CBD and legal THC products are not regulated. The actual level of either is not to be trusted.
gwdarden4 wrote:
I didn't realize that this was even possible. I'm not trying to stir things up, but I'm kinda shocked that LetsRun offered a discount on a product (CBD cream with THC in it) that could lead to an athlete's suspension given how strongly LetsRun has always spoken out against doping.
I'll look into this.
Floyds of Leadville (who advertises on LetsRun.com) offers CBD products with THC and without THC.
A big selling point of their products is also is that they are certified CBD products so you're supposed to know what you are getting.
Unrelated - why is THC considered a performance enhancing substance?
CBD is permitted by USADA and WADA. THC above a certain threshhold is not.
https://www.usada.org/six-things-know-about-cannabidiol/Wolf's Bane wrote:
Cheating is cheating. CBD might be legal, but you shouldn't be pursuing a career as an athlete if you want to partake in it. Its sad that there are so many cheaters out there, that there needs to be a 0 tolerance policy for prohibited drug use.
If aspirin would have been "discovered" within the past 10 years; it might very well be on the banned list. There is no reason any marijuana product should be on a banned list. Looks like it is though. They should probably throw some moral behavior and civil obedience clauses in there too. Just let the stoners run!