BuckeyeMike wrote:
Let’s watch the Libyard Dimicrats suddenly disappear on their abuser predator pulpit. Doesn’t fit their narrative.
Actually, she's the same as you, a Republican.
Robert Johnson is an unprofessional, irresponsible hack and an idiot ... and I have no problem tell him to his face
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Dear Mr Coleman, I take great offence at your subject heading denigrating Mr Robert Johnson, accordingly, I have removed the "irresponsible" bit.
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Kevin Hadsell is noticeably absent in this thread. Where is he with all of his bad jokes and lame insults?
Rojo tried to defend himself (and failed) but Hadsell is staying away like a coward. When the truth is brought up Hadsell hides in shame.
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Except that he is a doper.All elite americans are drugged up out of their minds,and many in the next tier down are,as well.They take cocktails of steroids,and human growth hormones,and they almost all get away with it.
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American high schools have 25-50 dopers across all sports. Even before all the missed test It was hard to believe these outliers aren't one of them.
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What is the relationship like with the Colemans. Good stable father son thing? -
Questionable1 wrote:
Sports Dad wrote:
This is an open post to Robert Johnson from Seth Coleman, Christian Coleman's dad:
For you to utter such nonsensical drivel, that "Christian Coleman should be drug tested every day for the rest of his career," shows that you are an unprofessional, irresponsible hack. And an idiot.
-- It is medially irresponsible to take blood intravenously from a human being every day.
-- Christian did not "get off on a technicality" or a "loophole." The rule is the rule. Ask USADA. Ask WADA.
-- Christian has been tested over 30 times in a calendar year and, I would venture to guess that since he graduated from high school in 2014 and began his college career at the University of Tennessee, he has been tested 100 times by the NCAA, USADA, WADA , the AIU, etc. He has never even had ONE false positive.
-- When Christian broke the world record in the 60m the FIRST time, HE CALLED WADA immediately and asked them to come test him so his record would be ratified. He eventually MET A TESTER AT A DINER, at 2 a.m. Does that sound like a "cheater?"
-- And you compared him to the dirt bag ex-coach at the University of Toledo? Are you serious?
-- Bottom line: Christian will be more diligent in his whereabout filings, but he did not break a rule. He is not a "doper." Never has been. Never will be. You, on the other hand, are an unprofessional, irresponsible, idiotic hack. And I have no problem telling you this -- calmly and rationally -- to your face.
Editor's note: In the post above, Seth Coleman, Christian's father, is referring to the most recent episode of the LetsRun.com podcast where we talked about Christian's three whereabouts failures in a 12-month period. We have confirmed that the post above indeed did come from Seth Coleman. You can hear what we said about Coleman at the 25:09 mark of the podcast (link at the end of this post).
Robert Johnson responded to Mr. Coleman's criticisms by emailing him the following:
Robert wrote:
This is Robert Johnson. I'm a co-founder of the website LetsRun.com. Someone claiming to be you posted on our messageboard last night.
Can you confirm that you did in fact post it?
If it was indeed you, I'd like to explain a few things.
I asked that Christian be tested every day because as a fan it's impossible to know what to enjoy about our sport as being real. Think about how many Olympic champions have been popped over the years, whether in the sprints (Ben Johnson, Marion Jones, Justin Gatlin, etc.) or distances (Asli Cakir Alptekin, Asbel Kiprop, Jemima Sumgong). It's just so frustrating.
In my mind, all performances in our sport are subject to doubt, and whether fair or not, these three whereabouts failures by your son will cause his performances to be scrutinized by some for the rest of his career. The only way to remove most of that doubt would be to be tested every single day.
I think Christian offering to do something like this would be a real opportunity for him. It would give fans a reason to believe in a big star and enjoy the sport once again. I think it would be educational as well. Christian could be viewed as a role model moving forward. Everyone could believe in him being clean and he could show young people that you can make mistakes at a young age and overcome it. Yes, daily blood tests wouldn't be possible, but you could do a urine test every day.
As for Kevin Hadsell, I only mentioned his name because he made an amazing point at his own expense. As Lance Armstrong proved, passing scores of drug tests doesn't really mean much, but if you do it every day then I think you cross a threshold where it means something and I think people are going to believe.
As someone who has been in the public eye myself (though obviously not to the same degree as Christian) for nearly two decades, I know how hard it is to see public criticism of you or a family member. It hurts and is hard to deal with.
I think it’s wonderful you are defending your son and your post makes me think it's likely your son is CLEAN. Are you open to an interview with our reporter Jonathan Gault? Or would you like to be on our podcast next week as a guest?
Yours in running,
-Robert
Mr. Coleman wrote back:
Seth Coleman wrote:
Good morning, Mr. Johnson.
Yes, I submitted that post.
With all due respect, you suggesting that Christian be tested every day for the rest of his career is asinine on so many levels. As I said in my post, he has been and will continue to be tested and scrutinized more than just about any athlete on the planet. Again, he has been tested more than 30 times in a year and has always been clean. He has never even had a false positive. There is no need for him to be tested every day – blood or urine. Mentioning his name in the same sentence and Ben Johnson, Marion Jones, Lance Armstrong, and Justin – in reference to PED’s – is reckless, ESPECIALLY given the fact that USADA dropped their case and WADA has decided quickly that it will not try to appeal. And the Toledo coach is a crass dirt bag, an accused sexual predator, who lacks character, professionalism and common decency. Bringing his name into this discussion about Christian, in any context, was/is foolish.
Christian did not violate any USADA rules or policies that would cause him to be banned. The only thing he needs to do, and will do moving forward, is to be more diligent and thorough about his whereabout filings.
Also, thanks, but I respectfully decline the offer to be on your show. Have a nice day.
Podcast link: https://www.letsrun.com/news/2019/09/brussels-coleman-preview-podcast/
I guess Mr. Coleman told Robert Johnson...twice.
Christian did not violate any USADA rules.
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Lance LegStrong wrote:
Best for last wrote:
It's interesting that so many here are experts on drug testing of elite athletes.
No one that posts here has had the level of testing done that Mr. Coleman has.
No one here has the had the travel and training schedule that an elite like Mr. Coleman lives.
No one here has been tested as many times as Mr. Coleman or has knowledge of being available at all times for testing.
No one here has made mention of the number of missed tests elites do have a on a regular basis that just miss the alert threshold.
The rules of testing are not established by Mr. Coleman, there have been years of protocol, procedure and realignment of the drug testing standards administered by the governing bodies, we have to trust they know what they are doing. No other sport has as much testing as track and field.
Speak for yourself! While you've been writing that drivel and sitting on your fat behind, I've been training 6 hours a day and winning 7 big races over the years. I very well know what drug testing and whereabouts are like!
Your hearing my friend, winning the local turkey trot does not count asa big race in most peoples books, congrats though, get ready for this years race!
Athletes know the least about testing protocol, they just pick up the phone and are tested. You know you have to be available, that's it. As said a number of athletes miss tests for various reasons , it's not a new thing. -
BS called on you wrote:
Lance LegStrong wrote:
Best for last wrote:
It's interesting that so many here are experts on drug testing of elite athletes.
No one that posts here has had the level of testing done that Mr. Coleman has.
No one here has the had the travel and training schedule that an elite like Mr. Coleman lives.
No one here has been tested as many times as Mr. Coleman or has knowledge of being available at all times for testing.
No one here has made mention of the number of missed tests elites do have a on a regular basis that just miss the alert threshold.
The rules of testing are not established by Mr. Coleman, there have been years of protocol, procedure and realignment of the drug testing standards administered by the governing bodies, we have to trust they know what they are doing. No other sport has as much testing as track and field.
Speak for yourself! While you've been writing that drivel and sitting on your fat behind, I've been training 6 hours a day and winning 7 big races over the years. I very well know what drug testing and whereabouts are like!
Your hearing my friend, winning the local turkey trot does not count asa big race in most peoples books, congrats though, get ready for this years race!
Athletes know the least about testing protocol, they just pick up the phone and are tested. You know you have to be available, that's it. As said a number of athletes miss tests for various reasons , it's not a new thing.
C.Coleman just found out how serious blowing off whereabouts can be. Without the loophole (which is closing as we speak) he would have no recourse and would be sitting out through the Olys.
He's lucky and he knows it. His self marketing brain is telling him to deflect this to the media in order to save his
endorsement livelyhood. Thing is, he phukked up, not Rojo, Wejo, ESPN, CBS,ABC,NBC or any other media outlet. None of them are responsible for filing his whereabout reports. He is.
Blow it off on Wednesday instead of Tuesday and he would be out.
Thats how close he was without the backdating BS.
Grow up Coleman.
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So you mean to tell us that he KNeW ahead of time that this was going to be backdated? Because otherwise he didn’t know and got lucky and was off by a technicality. Please tell me how CC knew that this was the case. Enlighten us.
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Daddy coming to the rescue is as good as turning oneself in.
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I would be the last to defend RoJo's professional journalism. However, the "never even tested positive once" defense is not a defense at all.
I'm not a bank robber. In fact, I've never even been arrested for bank robbery once!
I cannot fathom how it's possible to miss a drug test three times in a year. How can you possibly miss a third test if you've already missed two? And, yes, he didn't violate the USADA terms, but that's a loop hole, and it's absolutely correct to call it that. If we know anything about doping and testing, in-competition testing is useless. Calling a tester that you're ready to be tested, when it helps you, but evading tests at other times, sounds exactly like the behaviour of a doper who knows what he's doing.
Christian Coleman doesn't owe anything to anyone, but as a result of his own behaviour, nobody is obliged to trust him to be clean. Certainly, journalists have no obligation to stop questioning. Rojo suggested one way forward. If there's a better suggestion, I'd like to hear it. -
Obsessedabit wrote:
it seems really strange and obsessive to constantly be posting about him. Sounds like you have some deep psychological issues. Let it go and get some help. You sound unhealthy.
Isn't it his site?
Why wouldn't you call out the rubbish? -
Querfeldein wrote:
I would be the last to defend RoJo's professional journalism. However, the "never even tested positive once" defense is not a defense at all.
I'm not a bank robber. In fact, I've never even been arrested for bank robbery once!
I cannot fathom how it's possible to miss a drug test three times in a year. How can you possibly miss a third test if you've already missed two? And, yes, he didn't violate the USADA terms, but that's a loop hole, and it's absolutely correct to call it that. If we know anything about doping and testing, in-competition testing is useless. Calling a tester that you're ready to be tested, when it helps you, but evading tests at other times, sounds exactly like the behaviour of a doper who knows what he's doing.
Christian Coleman doesn't owe anything to anyone, but as a result of his own behaviour, nobody is obliged to trust him to be clean. Certainly, journalists have no obligation to stop questioning. Rojo suggested one way forward. If there's a better suggestion, I'd like to hear it.
The truth is you do not understand how an athlete can miss a random test, because you are not an elite athlete.
Likely you get out of bed, have your breakfast and go to work each day. All on a regular schedule.
He gives dates a year in advance then goes about his life, not knowing when the inquisition will turn up, and if he is out by a few minutes he's 'caught'. I doubt you could accurately schedule your social life to the hour, a year in advance.
And - he did not break the rules. His privacy was violated by the USADA because they weren't able to implement their own laws - despite having only ONE FCKING job to do. I hope he sues their asses off. CC needs to get better at this. Its his livelihood.
And you fail to understand, he was tested 20 times and passed. And passed. He didn't miss the only 3 tests scheduled. He was tested at other times. -
omygoodnes wrote:
Querfeldein wrote:
I would be the last to defend RoJo's professional journalism. However, the "never even tested positive once" defense is not a defense at all.
I'm not a bank robber. In fact, I've never even been arrested for bank robbery once!
I cannot fathom how it's possible to miss a drug test three times in a year. How can you possibly miss a third test if you've already missed two? And, yes, he didn't violate the USADA terms, but that's a loop hole, and it's absolutely correct to call it that. If we know anything about doping and testing, in-competition testing is useless. Calling a tester that you're ready to be tested, when it helps you, but evading tests at other times, sounds exactly like the behaviour of a doper who knows what he's doing.
Christian Coleman doesn't owe anything to anyone, but as a result of his own behaviour, nobody is obliged to trust him to be clean. Certainly, journalists have no obligation to stop questioning. Rojo suggested one way forward. If there's a better suggestion, I'd like to hear it.
The truth is you do not understand how an athlete can miss a random test, because you are not an elite athlete.
Likely you get out of bed, have your breakfast and go to work each day. All on a regular schedule.
He gives dates a year in advance then goes about his life, not knowing when the inquisition will turn up, and if he is out by a few minutes he's 'caught'. I doubt you could accurately schedule your social life to the hour, a year in advance.
And - he did not break the rules. His privacy was violated by the USADA because they weren't able to implement their own laws - despite having only ONE FCKING job to do. I hope he sues their asses off. CC needs to get better at this. Its his livelihood.
And you fail to understand, he was tested 20 times and passed. And passed. He didn't miss the only 3 tests scheduled. He was tested at other times.
You’re right. I couldn’t plan my life to the hour a year in advance. I also am not a professional athlete. But you bet your A$$ that if my integrity, my character and my livelihood were on the line, dependent about my updating a fu$&ing app with my location: I would! So you can tell CC to go f-himself. Follow the rules. Missing a test IS a violation. Not updating your whereabouts IS a violation. If he’s too f^^*ng lazy to do it tell him to find a desk job and stop crying that it is someone else’s fault. Grow up. -
Calling it better... wrote:
omygoodnes wrote:
Querfeldein wrote:
I would be the last to defend RoJo's professional journalism. However, the "never even tested positive once" defense is not a defense at all.
I'm not a bank robber. In fact, I've never even been arrested for bank robbery once!
I cannot fathom how it's possible to miss a drug test three times in a year. How can you possibly miss a third test if you've already missed two? And, yes, he didn't violate the USADA terms, but that's a loop hole, and it's absolutely correct to call it that. If we know anything about doping and testing, in-competition testing is useless. Calling a tester that you're ready to be tested, when it helps you, but evading tests at other times, sounds exactly like the behaviour of a doper who knows what he's doing.
Christian Coleman doesn't owe anything to anyone, but as a result of his own behaviour, nobody is obliged to trust him to be clean. Certainly, journalists have no obligation to stop questioning. Rojo suggested one way forward. If there's a better suggestion, I'd like to hear it.
The truth is you do not understand how an athlete can miss a random test, because you are not an elite athlete.
Likely you get out of bed, have your breakfast and go to work each day. All on a regular schedule.
He gives dates a year in advance then goes about his life, not knowing when the inquisition will turn up, and if he is out by a few minutes he's 'caught'. I doubt you could accurately schedule your social life to the hour, a year in advance.
And - he did not break the rules. His privacy was violated by the USADA because they weren't able to implement their own laws - despite having only ONE FCKING job to do. I hope he sues their asses off. CC needs to get better at this. Its his livelihood.
And you fail to understand, he was tested 20 times and passed. And passed. He didn't miss the only 3 tests scheduled. He was tested at other times.
You’re right. I couldn’t plan my life to the hour a year in advance. I also am not a professional athlete. But you bet your A$$ that if my integrity, my character and my livelihood were on the line, dependent about my updating a fu$&ing app with my location: I would! So you can tell CC to go f-himself. Follow the rules. Missing a test IS a violation. Not updating your whereabouts IS a violation. If he’s too f^^*ng lazy to do it tell him to find a desk job and stop crying that it is someone else’s fault. Grow up.
Rojo is a great guy! I'm appalled by these posts. Appalled!!! I think he's a good guy -
Bucz wrote:
Does anyone else who has been visiting this site since the very early days find it confusing when people call into question the site's professionalism and journalism?
I feel like I'll always think of them as just a bunch of regular dudes, or certifiable hacks if youd like. Theyre neither professionals nor journalists, which has been the charm from the very beginning.
It's hilariously ironic now that they've gained a stature in the sport that such standards are expected of them.
Tell me about it. When I started The Face Book in my dorm room at Harvard, it was just supposed to be a place to judge people based on looks. And now we're being asked to regulate the environment we created! I never signed up for this sh!t. -
Mark Zuckerberg wrote:
Bucz wrote:
Does anyone else who has been visiting this site since the very early days find it confusing when people call into question the site's professionalism and journalism?
I feel like I'll always think of them as just a bunch of regular dudes, or certifiable hacks if youd like. Theyre neither professionals nor journalists, which has been the charm from the very beginning.
It's hilariously ironic now that they've gained a stature in the sport that such standards are expected of them.
Tell me about it. When I started The Face Book in my dorm room at Harvard, it was just supposed to be a place to judge people based on looks. And now we're being asked to regulate the environment we created! I never signed up for this sh!t.
did Rojo REALLY need to start ANOTHER thread about Caster Semenya? What's his deal? -
jimmy smith wrote:
Mark Zuckerberg wrote:
Bucz wrote:
Does anyone else who has been visiting this site since the very early days find it confusing when people call into question the site's professionalism and journalism?
I feel like I'll always think of them as just a bunch of regular dudes, or certifiable hacks if youd like. Theyre neither professionals nor journalists, which has been the charm from the very beginning.
It's hilariously ironic now that they've gained a stature in the sport that such standards are expected of them.
Tell me about it. When I started The Face Book in my dorm room at Harvard, it was just supposed to be a place to judge people based on looks. And now we're being asked to regulate the environment we created! I never signed up for this sh!t.
did Rojo REALLY need to start ANOTHER thread about Caster Semenya? What's his deal?
I make a good point here -
jimmy smith wrote:
jimmy smith wrote:
Mark Zuckerberg wrote:
Bucz wrote:
Does anyone else who has been visiting this site since the very early days find it confusing when people call into question the site's professionalism and journalism?
I feel like I'll always think of them as just a bunch of regular dudes, or certifiable hacks if youd like. Theyre neither professionals nor journalists, which has been the charm from the very beginning.
It's hilariously ironic now that they've gained a stature in the sport that such standards are expected of them.
Tell me about it. When I started The Face Book in my dorm room at Harvard, it was just supposed to be a place to judge people based on looks. And now we're being asked to regulate the environment we created! I never signed up for this sh!t.
did Rojo REALLY need to start ANOTHER thread about Caster Semenya? What's his deal?
I make a good point here
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As pointed out elsewhere...you pick the 6 to 7 am slot if you don't want to have any issues...7ish to 8ish pm is a dangerous slot, you are way more likely to do something outside at that time than between 6 and 7.
Unless you are a distance runner that is.
