Kilian Jornet shares insights in his summer training

I run mountains and roads and all distances and dont think im be wrote:

Lets get you an AT set up Sage. To beat the Kilian...you must become the Kilian

I think he recovers quickly because of his size. You probably have 30 lb on him.

^ This MUST be trolling. Killian is tiny. Yeah, so? Since Sage is much taller than Kilian, and Kilian is extremely skinny, I hope Sage weighs a lot more. If not trolling, please explain.

P.S. "AT" ?? Appalachian Trail?

semi_pro wrote:

I run mountains and roads and all distances and dont think im be wrote:

Lets get you an AT set up Sage. To beat the Kilian...you must become the Kilian

I think he recovers quickly because of his size. You probably have 30 lb on him.

^ This MUST be trolling. Killian is tiny. Yeah, so? Since Sage is much taller than Kilian, and Kilian is extremely skinny, I hope Sage weighs a lot more. If not trolling, please explain.

P.S. "AT" ?? Appalachian Trail?

There was a thread on here a couple months ago about the relationship between VO2 and recovery rate.

If you have two guys do the same workout [8x1k @ 5km pace] at their corresponding relative intensities [3min/k for a 15min guy and 4min/k for a 20min guy] the 15min guy still probably has a bigger VO2 and can still recover quicker from the same workout despite the same relative intensity.

Killian has one of the highest VO2 Max results ever recorded, 92. It shouldn't be surprising that he can recover quicker than most.

I've got about 3-4 inches in height on Kilian probably. I weigh 145lbs and am just under 5'11." If I starved myself maybe I could get down under 140 but I don't think that would be healthy for me. Kilian is probably about 125 and maybe 5'7" (I'm totally guessing here). Unlike a lot of elite E. African Marathon runners he actually doesn't have super thin legs....although he is quite lean in the upper body. This guy is obviously talking about an "AT" Alpine Touring Set-up. I'm actually interested in the Skimo stuff....but mainly for more glute/hamstring activation (which has helped me a ton in the past 8 weeks) and the fact that it is fun to get up to high elevations in the winter time and got in some work with less impact force. Plus everyone in Colorado likes skiing, right?! If all goes to plan though I'd still like to try to get an OTQ still and be at the Trials in Feb in the marathon though. I don't hide from top level competition on #AnySurfaceAnyDistance and I love road marathons still. Kilian will say things like "flat is easy" but I know that "'flat' means you have to run faster...which is always hard." But what was the author Finn talking about in his talks with Kilian about Everest a year or two ago? I guess I'm not surprised Kilian is going back there now, but he did just have a baby with Emilie (vegetarian) and I thought he was looking to travel less this year. Obviously I'm not really a big "mountain athlete" like he is so it is for sure a different perspective on the sport and there is a lot I don't understand. I'm proud of being a "roadie" though and my track/marathoning roots (even though I kind of sucked on the track).

semi_pro wrote:

I run mountains and roads and all distances and dont think im be wrote:

Lets get you an AT set up Sage. To beat the Kilian...you must become the Kilian

I think he recovers quickly because of his size. You probably have 30 lb on him.

^ This MUST be trolling. Killian is tiny. Yeah, so? Since Sage is much taller than Kilian, and Kilian is extremely skinny, I hope Sage weighs a lot more. If not trolling, please explain.

P.S. "AT" ?? Appalachian Trail?

semi_pro wrote:

I run mountains and roads and all distances and dont think im be wrote:

Lets get you an AT set up Sage. To beat the Kilian...you must become the Kilian

I think he recovers quickly because of his size. You probably have 30 lb on him.

^ This MUST be trolling. Killian is tiny. Yeah, so? Since Sage is much taller than Kilian, and Kilian is extremely skinny, I hope Sage weighs a lot more. If not trolling, please explain.

P.S. "AT" ?? Appalachian Trail?

AT = alpine touring = skimo. He means Sage should quit running year-round and start ski-touring/skimo racing in the winter.

No argument from me - I've been skiing in the backcountry longer than either have been alive. It's fun, it keeps you fit, it improves your mountain skills/balance, and it uses different muscle groups which helps keep running overuse injuries at bay. Of course, it has its own set of risks.

Piano_Man87 wrote:

Boston '75 wrote:

Bill Rodgers seems to have.

Rodgers ran 4-5 miles very slow each day for like 4-5 days leading up to Boston. Which for a marathon is indeed a short taper, but still a taper.

That's the week of the Marathon, not the week before.

FYI this is the article I was referencing. I was also interviewed by Finn in his book...but I'm not sure exactly why he had cited this from 'Canada's Running Magazine'?

Quote from the article:

"Jornet, one of the all-time great mountain runners, set the speed record for ascending the Mt Kilimanjaro, Mt Aconcagua, Mt Denali, Matterhorn and Mt Mont Blanc. After getting every detail of the climbs and of Jornet’s claims examined by American mountain runner Dan Howitt, UK-based author Adharanand Finn recently shared in his book “The Rise of the Ultra Runners: a Journey to the Edge of Human Endurance” that the famed alpinist, as claimed earlier, had not summitted Everest twice without oxygen or fixed ropes from the Tibetan side in May 2017, according to the Canada’s Running Magazine."

https://thehimalayantimes.com/nepal/kilian-jornet-among-10-climbers-to-scale-mt-everest-in-autumn-andrzej-bargiel-eyes-record-ski-descent/

Sage, I suggest you and most doubters take the time to read this:

https://www.outsideonline.com/2324076/ultrarunner-kilian-jornet-everest-controversy

Haters gonna hate and presumably won't change their minds.

In addition to Everest, according to this article :

"As a member of both the World Anti-Doping Agency’s regulatory program and Athletes for Transparency, Jornet must provide records of his whereabouts and doctor prescriptions, and he could be tested as often as once per month by an administrator who shows up at his door unannounced. "

The bold part is news to me. If true, please think twice before repeating your "no testing in trail running" rant in threads where Kilian has been the main subject for the last 20 or so posts (usually without ever referencing him, but also without making clear you are not talking specifically about him). Please note that for all we know he could be in that list from his skimo performances (he has been dominant for even longer than in trail running, even if that dominance seems to come to and end). If it is not true and you know it for a fact, then feel free to correct this part (we already know your opinion about quartz and athlete for transparency programs).

hobby trail jogger wrote:

The bold part is news to me. If true, please think twice before repeating your "no testing in trail running" rant in threads where Kilian has been the main subject for the last 20 or so posts (usually without ever referencing him, but also without making clear you are not talking specifically about him). Please note that for all we know he could be in that list from his skimo performances (he has been dominant for even longer than in trail running, even if that dominance seems to come to and end). If it is not true and you know it for a fact, then feel free to correct this part (we already know your opinion about quartz and athlete for transparency programs).

+1

and Sage thinks the same about Jim Walmsley

Sage, so you are 5'10" and fraction. So 5'10"