Timothy Cheruiyot Runs 1:43.11 800 pb!!! But don't hand him the gold quite yet..... (Manangoi is back in action)

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  • etyjytjyu

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    4 years ago 08/24/2019 6:17pm EDT
    re: Azzbells

    Azzbells wrote:

    Phantasy Star II wrote:

    Hmmmm............. Consistently running sub-3:30 for the 1500 and now a 1:43. Remind anyone of a certain other Kenyan?

    "Not really."

    EPO is a helluva drug.

    While there's been guys capable of this who were clean, Cheruiyot isn't one of them. Only the most sissified brainwashed slaves to all that is PC believe otherwise. The folks behind allowing so many E. Africans will pay a lot of $$$ to keep this fraudster ahead oj Jakob and others.

    That is amazing, that you know that! You should report him!

  • clown world

    Anonymous Poster

    4 years ago 08/24/2019 6:48pm EDT
    re: Azzbells

    Azzbells wrote:

    Phantasy Star II wrote:

    Hmmmm............. Consistently running sub-3:30 for the 1500 and now a 1:43. Remind anyone of a certain other Kenyan?

    "Not really."

    EPO is a helluva drug.

    While there's been guys capable of this who were clean, Cheruiyot isn't one of them. Only the most sissified brainwashed slaves to all that is PC believe otherwise. The folks behind allowing so many E. Africans will pay a lot of $$$ to keep this fraudster ahead oj Jakob and others.

    Implying Jakob is clean ???

    Let me guess, you also think Barega was 17 when he ran 12:43? LOL

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    It's potato

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    4 years ago 08/25/2019 3:41pm EDT
    re: Azzbells

    Azzbells wrote:

    Phantasy Star II wrote:

    Hmmmm............. Consistently running sub-3:30 for the 1500 and now a 1:43. Remind anyone of a certain other Kenyan?

    "Not really."

    EPO is a helluva drug.

    While there's been guys capable of this who were clean, Cheruiyot isn't one of them. Only the most sissified brainwashed slaves to all that is PC believe otherwise. The folks behind allowing so many E. Africans will pay a lot of $$$ to keep this fraudster ahead oj Jakob and others.

    Hi Coevett :)

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    YMMV

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    4 years ago 08/25/2019 3:54pm EDT
    re: Deanouk

    Deanouk wrote:

    zxcvzxcv wrote:

    How many 3:28 guys have gone 1:43?

    Kiprop (1:43.18?/3:26.69)

    Cheruiyot (1:43.11/3:28.41?)

    Makhloufi (1:42.7?/3:28.75)

    Baala (3:28.98)

    Not El G (but could), not Lagat, not Kiplagat (1:44.8A), not Morceli (1:44.79), not Ngeny (1:44.49, but could have with his 2:11.96, splitting 1:44), not Iguider, not Manangoi (1:44.15), not Farah, not Kwemoi, not Cacho (1:45.37)

    This performance from Cheruiyot puts him in to 4th place on the all-time list for combined 800 and 1500m pbs based on the IAAF points system. 3rd actually if you ignore Kiprop's time(s), which were likely EPO assisted.

    S. Coe (UK) 1:41.73 1276.0 3:29.77 1248.0 5:11.50 2524.0

    A. Kiprop (KEN) 1:43.15 1231.0 3:26.69 1293.0 5:09.84 2524.0

    T. Makhloufi (ALG) 1:42.61 1247.0 3:28.75 1263.0 5:11.36 2510.0

    T. Cheruiyot (KEN) 1:43.11 1232.0 3:28.41 1267.0 5:11.52 2499.0

    M. Baala (FRA) 1:43.15 1231.0 3:28.98 1260.0 5:12.13 2491.0

    S. Cram (UK) 1:42.88 1239.0 3:29.67 1250.0 5:12.55 2489.0

    A. Souleiman (DJI) 1:42.97 1236.0 3:29.58 1251.0 5:12.55 2487.0

    W. Chirchir (KEN) 1:43.33 1225.0 3:29.29 1255.0 5:12.62 2480.0

    A. Kaki (SUD) 1:42.23 1260.0 3:31.76 1220.0 5:13.99 2480.0

    A. Laalou* (MOR) 1:43.25 1228.0 3:29.53 1252.0 5:12.78 2480.0

    Y. Saad-Kemal (BRD/KEN)1:42.79 1242.0 3:31.56 1223.0 5:14.35 2465.0

    N. Morceli (ALG) 1:44.79 1180.0 3:27.37 1283.0 5:12.16 2463.0

    R. K. Biwott (KEN) 1:43.56 1218.0 3:30.10 1244.0 5:13.66 2462.0

    S. Aouita (MOR) 1:43.86 1209.0 3:29.47 1253.0 5:13.33 2462.0

    N. Ngeny (KEN) 1:44.49 1189.0 3:28.12 1272.0 5:12.61 2461.0

    L. Rotich (KEN) 1:43.65 1215.0 3:29.91 1246.0 5:13.56 2461.0

    W. Tanui (KEN) 1:43.37 1224.0 3:30.58 1237.0 5:13.95 2461.0

    R. Ramzi* (BRN/MOR)) 1:44.05 1203.0 3:29.14 1257.0 5:13.19 2460.0

    S. Kiplagat (KEN) 1:44.80 1180.0 3:27.64 1279.0 5:12.44 2459.0

    A. Bile (SOM) 1:43.60 1217.0 3:30.55 1237.0 5:14.15 2454.0

    J. Cruz (BRA) 1:41.77 1274.0 3:34.63 1180.0 5:16.40 2454.0

    A. WEBB (USA) 1:43.84 1209.0 3:30.54 1237.0 5:14.38 2446.0

    P. Elliott (UK) 1:42.97 1236.0 3:32.69 1207.0 5:15.66 2443.0

    B. Lagat (KEN) 1:46.00 1143.0 3:26.34 1298.0 5:12.34 2441.0

    S. Ovett (UK) 1:44.09 1202.0 3:30.77 1234.0 5:14.86 2436.0

    A. Choge (KEN) 1:44.86 1178.0 3:29.47 1253.0 5:14.33 2431.0

    B. Mansoor-Ali (BRN) 1:44.02 1204.0 3:31.49 1224.0 5:15.51 2428.0

    V. Niyongabo (BDI) 1:45.13 1170.0 3:29.18 1257.0 5:14.31 2427.0

    M. Centrowitz (USA) 1:44.62 1185.0 3:30.40 1239.0 5:15.02 2424.0

    F. Cacho (SPA) 1:45.37 1162.0 3:28.95 1260.0 5:14.32 2422.0

    2 caveats:

    1. Apart from Cheruiyot's addition today, I haven't updated this since 2017, so if there are any new names to add or moves to make, I'd really appreciate any information.

    2. I've used the latest (2017) edition of the performance points for Cheruiyot's times, but all the others would have been from previously published points editions. So there may be a need for me to tweek a point here or there when I get the time.

    There are enough drugs on that list to keep a decent-sized urban hospital running indefinitely.

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    4 years ago 08/26/2019 7:40pm EDT

    John Wesley Harding wrote:

    Marcin Lewandowski 800 1:43.72 (1213) + 3:31.95 (1217) = 2430

    Thanks for that one too!

    Updated list: -

    S. Coe (UK) 1:41.73 1275.0 3:29.77 1248.0 5:11.50 2523.0

    A. Kiprop (KEN) 1:43.15 1231.0 3:26.69 1292.0 5:09.84 2523.0

    T. Makhloufi (ALG) 1:42.61 1247.0 3:28.75 1263.0 5:11.36 2510.0

    T. Cheruiyot (KEN) 1:43.11 1232.0 3:28.41 1267.0 5:11.52 2499.0

    M. Baala (FRA) 1:43.15 1231.0 3:28.98 1260.0 5:12.13 2491.0

    S. Cram (UK) 1:42.88 1239.0 3:29.67 1250.0 5:12.55 2489.0

    A. Souleiman (DJI) 1:42.97 1236.0 3:29.58 1251.0 5:12.55 2487.0

    W. Chirchir (KEN) 1:43.33 1225.0 3:29.29 1255.0 5:12.62 2480.0

    A. Kaki (SUD) 1:42.23 1260.0 3:31.76 1220.0 5:13.99 2480.0

    A. Laalou* (MOR) 1:43.25 1228.0 3:29.53 1252.0 5:12.78 2480.0

    Y. Saad-Kemal (BRD/KEN) 1:42.79 1242.0 3:31.56 1223.0 5:14.35 2465.0

    N. Morceli (ALG) 1:44.79 1180.0 3:27.37 1283.0 5:12.16 2463.0

    R. K. Biwott (KEN) 1:43.56 1218.0 3:30.10 1244.0 5:13.66 2462.0

    S. Aouita (MOR) 1:43.86 1209.0 3:29.47 1253.0 5:13.33 2462.0

    E. Manangoi (KEN) 1:44.15 1200.0 3:28.80 1262.0 5:12.95 2462.0

    N. Ngeny (KEN) 1:44.49 1189.0 3:28.12 1272.0 5:12.61 2461.0

    L. Rotich (KEN) 1:43.65 1215.0 3:29.91 1246.0 5:13.56 2461.0

    W. Tanui (KEN) 1:43.37 1224.0 3:30.58 1237.0 5:13.95 2461.0

    R. Ramzi* (BRN/MOR)) 1:44.05 1203.0 3:29.14 1257.0 5:13.19 2460.0

    S. Kiplagat (KEN) 1:44.80 1180.0 3:27.64 1279.0 5:12.44 2459.0

    A. Bile (SOM) 1:43.60 1217.0 3:30.55 1237.0 5:14.15 2454.0

    J. Cruz (BRA) 1:41.77 1274.0 3:34.63 1180.0 5:16.40 2454.0

    F. Cheruiyot Rotich (KEN) 1:42.54 1250.0 3:33.21 1199.0 5:15.75 2449.0

    A. Webb (USA) 1:43.84 1209.0 3:30.54 1237.0 5:14.38 2446.0

    P. Elliott (UK) 1:42.97 1236.0 3:32.69 1207.0 5:15.66 2443.0

    B. Lagat (KEN) 1:46.00 1143.0 3:26.34 1298.0 5:12.34 2441.0

    S. Ovett (UK) 1:44.09 1202.0 3:30.77 1234.0 5:14.86 2436.0

    A. Choge (KEN) 1:44.86 1178.0 3:29.47 1253.0 5:14.33 2431.0

    M. Lewandowski (POL) 1:43.72 1213.0 3:31.95 1217.0 5:15.67 2430.0

    B. Mansoor-Ali (BRN) 1:44.02 1204.0 3:31.49 1224.0 5:15.51 2428.0

    V. Niyongabo (BDI) 1:45.13 1170.0 3:29.18 1257.0 5:14.31 2427.0

    M. Centrowitz (USA) 1:44.62 1185.0 3:30.40 1239.0 5:15.02 2424.0

    F. Cacho (SPA) 1:45.37 1162.0 3:28.95 1260.0 5:14.32 2422.0

    R. Silva (SPA) 1:44.91 1176.0 3:30.07 1244.0 5:14.98 2420.0

    A. Wote (ETH) 1:44.99 1174.0 3:29.91 1246.0 5:14.90 2420.0

    A. Wheating (USA) 1:44.56 1187.0 3:30.90 1232.0 5:15.46 2419.0

    H. EL-Guerrouj (MOR) 1:47.18 1108.0 3:26.00 1303.0 5:13.18 2411.0

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