Cb wrote:
Nike sucks but so does she.
+1
I cannot believe she ran the day she gave birth...
Cb wrote:
Nike sucks but so does she.
+1
I cannot believe she ran the day she gave birth...
Wow this board found another opportunity to bash Kara.
Super unique and creative
I can. She's selfish.
[quote]Dr Taboo wrote:
Kara blames Nike for basically everything that went wrong in her life and says that if she was given 8 months after pregnancy, she may be fighting to go to the Olympics next year.
Valid points or is she a huge crybaby narcissist?
I have two daughters. I'm teaching them to be strong, powerful women. I'm teaching them to be fighters. I'm teaching them to learn from their failures, grow from their failures and be better next time. And I'm teaching them to have a backbone and make decisions that are right for THEM, and not cave to pressure from others (not a boss or anyone else). And I'm teaching them to take ownership of their decisions, as their own, and not blame anyone else, and - unlike Kara - to never throw themselves a pity party.
Kara is not a good role model for girls growing up today. She's done nothing but point fingers, cry when things don't go her way, and blame others for her failures.
Kara should fight for what's right - not whine and wallow in self pity, and make it always about her.
Girls need better role models than Kara, and there are plenty of examples in T&F, and a growing number of examples around the world.
Supertramp wrote:
Cb wrote:
Nike sucks but so does she.
+1
I cannot believe she ran the day she gave birth...
It is entirely possible that she ran the day she gave birth... BEFORE giving birth. She may have done a run in the morning and gone into labor and gave birth later that same day.
Ultra Runner Chick wrote:
It is entirely possible that she ran the day she gave birth... BEFORE giving birth. She may have done a run in the morning and gone into labor and gave birth later that same day.
That's 100% certainly what happened. And it's not that crazy - my wife did the same (though if I recall correctly, it was just 40min) before our first kid was born. She carried the second kid a little differently, so it wasn't comfortable to run, so that time she stopped a couple months before giving birth. It all depends on the specifics of the person and the pregnancy: what's "impossible" for one person might be no big deal for another person or in another context.
UR consistent wrote:
Wow this board found another opportunity to bash Kara.
Super unique and creative
Yet here you are posting;)
She's beyond narcissistic as her goal is to stay in the limelight as long as possible for $$$$$$$$$.
Sorry, she was NOT that good. Hastings and Flanagan and Hasay all have marathons light years ahead of her and she knows it. Had her first race in New York been more stacked, she would not have had near the coverage that she received.
Completely misrepresenting her stance in the article is pathetic, but such is par for the course for Goucher threads. Losers love to hate her.
lrc vett wrote:
Completely misrepresenting her stance in the article is pathetic, but such is par for the course for Goucher threads. Losers love to hate her.
But I'm quite a loser myself and like misrepresenting her and others every chance I get.
lrc vett wrote:
lrc vett wrote:
Completely misrepresenting her stance in the article is pathetic, but such is par for the course for Goucher threads. Losers love to hate her.
But I'm quite a loser myself and like misrepresenting her and others every chance I get.
You just proved my point. This is the kind of maturity the rabid Kara bashers have. Pathetic handle stealing because they have no substance or intellect.
"She signed the contract and knew the terms. Being unhappy later is not their problem."
A lot of runners sign a contract and, apparently, seem to forget that the company they signed with is a commercial operation concerned first and foremost with making a profit. Like an employee with any other company if a runner works well they can be very well rewarded and enjoy a long and mutually satisfactory relationship with that company. But if the runner does not perform at the level of the company's expectations they aren't retained. It really isn't very complicated!
Well, my only problem with the tone of their gripes, is that they make it seem like its unique to being an athlete, if I didn't produce anything at work for 18 weeks let alone 18 months, I would be out of a job too...actually most Americans get ZERO paid time off for having kids... with a maximum of 12 weeks out of work before your job can be handed out...I think the problem with pushing for companies to pay maternity leave is the inevitable discrimination that will occur if men are not required to also take paid time off when they produce offspring....Women will be discriminated against, viewed as a more costly and less productive employee if they may need to take a year paid time off where a man is unlikely to require that time off...and for women like me who do not want children, we will inevitably pay the price for others' choices...financially and in our career advancement opportunities. It really needs to be done like in Scandinavia, where there is a significant reduction in available time off if only the mother takes time off....this means that men and women will be as equally likely to require a big chunk of time off for reproducing...and of course the government subsidizes this time off, to avoid companies discriminating against young people, although it still happens...
More people spouting the same misconception that the runners aren't "producing anything" and have no value to their sponsor if they aren't racing the 6-8 months after having a kid. Think bigger.
My buddy asked why clothing companies even sponsor any runners to begin with. He's a pretty big sports nut, and was only able to name one professional female distance runner (Des (only by "Des")), and two current male distance runners, and retired "Meb." When asked to name a current track athlete, a female jock/recreational runner in my office was only able to name retired Usain Bolt. She came recite the entire MLB All Star lineup and the basically all of the NBA All Stars.
Do companies really get any return on investment by sponsoring runners, and especially distance runners?
It's a difficult subject. Beggers/choosers.
It is interesting how AlSal and Nike are incredibly protective of Rupp, but were willing to put Kara's career at risk when she had a baby.
I am not sure the post-pregnancy training damaged Kara as much as she claims. She had a very strong season in 2011. But she does have a valid point. Women need to have sufficient time to recover from pregnancy and the coaches and sponsors should be responsible for protecting their athletes.
Valid points or is she a huge crybaby narcissist?
Can't it be both?
Sounds like Adam is as much at fault. He could have chipped in instead of piling it all on Kara.
I think they are valid points. Being a professional runner is like no other type of career, where women come back to work, ease in to things and eventually work the way they did before they were pregnant. My career was a police officer and I saw many female cops on light duty, working inside the police station and doing paper work with no rush placed on them to get in to a patrol car ASAP and back out on to the streets. I'm sure we had better labor contracts and benefits than professional runners. Nike and Alberto took the time to develop Galen Rupp over many years. So I guess they pick and chose the best return on investment.
Taro wrote:
And by the way, whatever happened to that bombshell she said she was going to drop on Alberto about the doping she alleged?
Settled. Non disclosure with that
coachcommentsnicely wrote:
What kind of job gives 8 months maternity?
Erm, every job.