There's a reason why the Olympic LJ champ finished dead last at USAs in the long jump. She had almost no iron in her system. Anti-doping people realized it on her doping tests and sent her an urgent email. She ended up passing out in the doctor's office.
“The doctor told me I didn’t just have low iron, I essentially had no iron,” she says. “He wasn’t sure how I was functioning.”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/athletics/2019/08/16/tianna-bartoletta-becoming-anaemic-menstruation-completely-changing/
Cool story: Anti-doping authorities sent Tianna Bartoletta an email letting her know she had a SERIOUS medical condition
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it also goes to show why thyroid medication can't become a banned substance since this hypothyroidism was the root of the problem. -
Interesting how quickly that iron transfusion put life back into her. I wonder what her ferritin was down to.
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got to "underactive thyroid" and stopped.
Metabolic performance enhancers are cheating - unless you need them to handle an elite-level training load.
No doubt they'll be handing her a TUE. -
Bad Wigins wrote:
got to "underactive thyroid" and stopped.
Metabolic performance enhancers are cheating - unless you need them to handle an elite-level training load.
No doubt they'll be handing her a TUE.
Next book idea: "how to pretend you're an expert on something you know nothing about" -
Low iron >>> hypothyroid >>> heavy/long periods >>> even lower iron >>> worse hypothyroid >>> etc.
Doesn't sound to me like she needs thyroid medication so much as keep with the iron transfusions and let the body correct itself. -
In “Lucy,” the doc tells Scarlett Johansson she’s had a massive hormone overdose. “I’m surprised you’re still alive,” he says.
“Not for long,” she says.
This is the correct response. -
Pseudo-pseudo intellectual wrote:
Bad Wigins wrote:
got to "underactive thyroid" and stopped.
Metabolic performance enhancers are cheating - unless you need them to handle an elite-level training load.
No doubt they'll be handing her a TUE.
Next book idea: "how to pretend you're an expert on something you know nothing about"
It does amaze me how ignorant some people are on topics but pretend to be experts. Oh the power of the Internet! -
Hateraid wrote:
Pseudo-pseudo intellectual wrote:
Bad Wigins wrote:
got to "underactive thyroid" and stopped.
Metabolic performance enhancers are cheating - unless you need them to handle an elite-level training load.
No doubt they'll be handing her a TUE.
Next book idea: "how to pretend you're an expert on something you know nothing about"
It does amaze me how ignorant some people are on topics but pretend to be experts. Oh the power of the Internet!
Agreed. Bad Wigins is the author, Malcom Gladwell. Dude knows jack squat about endocrinology. Just the typical East Coast blowhard talking out of his @ss. -
Hateraid wrote:
Pseudo-pseudo intellectual wrote:
Bad Wigins wrote:
got to "underactive thyroid" and stopped.
Metabolic performance enhancers are cheating - unless you need them to handle an elite-level training load.
No doubt they'll be handing her a TUE.
Next book idea: "how to pretend you're an expert on something you know nothing about"
It does amaze me how ignorant some people are on topics but pretend to be experts. Oh the power of the Internet!
Gladwell, of the oft-debunked and rather moronic Tall Kenyan runner theory once again wades into the deep end and gets thrashed accordingly. Why, oh why do you do it, Malcolm? -
Hi NOP trolls! Go argue with these three MD's who wrote
In athletes, overtraining has been associated with a hypothyroid state, likely a transient one, that is potentially related to increased conversion from T4 to rT3, a less biologically active form 2, 50
https://now.aapmr.org/endocrine-abnormalities-affecting-the-musculoskeletal-system/
another thing that can get run down by overtraining is T levels, should we start handing out TUE's for those too? Because maybe your T levels were from some other condition, despite the fact you were doing fine at an elite level for years before they suddenly dropped? -
Bad Wigins wrote:
got to "underactive thyroid" and stopped.
Metabolic performance enhancers are cheating - unless you need them to handle an elite-level training load.
No doubt they'll be handing her a TUE.
The majority of people with hypothyroid conditions in developed countries (little risk of iodine deficiency due to iodine supplementation in dairy and salt) is Hashimoto's thyroiditis. HT is an autoimmune disease. Autoimmune diseases are difficult to fake because they are diagnosed by specific antibodies in the blood (or other tissues). This is what Goucher has.
The article doesn't say what the cause of her hypothyroidism was, but HT is the most likely cause. In that case she needs meds forever or she will die. HT is extremely hereditary, and is not caused by overtraining. See: https://www.thyroid.org/hypothyroidism/
"There can be many reasons why the cells in the thyroid gland can’t make enough thyroid hormone. Here are the major causes, from the most to the least common.
-Autoimmune disease. In some people’s bodies, the immune system that protects the body from invading infections can mistake thyroid gland cells and their enzymes for invaders and can attack them. Then there aren’t enough thyroid cells and enzymes left to make enough thyroid hormone. This is more common in women than men. Autoimmune thyroiditis can begin suddenly or it can develop slowly over years. The most common forms are Hashimoto’s thyroiditis and atrophic thyroiditis.
-Surgical removal of part or all of the thyroid gland. Some people with thyroid nodules, thyroid cancer, or Graves’ disease need to have part or all of their thyroid removed. If the whole thyroid is removed, people will definitely become hypothyroid. If part of the gland is left, it may be able to make enough thyroid hormone to keep blood levels normal.
-Radiation treatment. Some people with Graves’ disease, nodular goiter, or thyroid cancer are treated with radioactive iodine (I-131) for the purpose of destroying their thyroid gland. Patients with Hodgkin’s disease, lymphoma, or cancers of the head or neck are treated with radiation. All these patients can lose part or all of their thyroid function.
-Congenital hypothyroidism (hypothyroidism that a baby is born with). A few babies are born without a thyroid or with only a partly formed one. A few have part or all of their thyroid in the wrong place (ectopic thyroid). In some babies, the thyroid cells or their enzymes don’t work right.
-Thyroiditis. Thyroiditis is an inflammation of the thyroid gland, usually caused by an autoimmune attack or by a viral infection. Thyroiditis can make the thyroid dump its whole supply of stored thyroid hormone into the blood at once, causing brief hyperthyroidism (too much thyroid activity); then the thyroid becomes underactive.
-Medicines. Medicines such as amiodarone, lithium, interferon alpha, and interleukin-2 can prevent the thyroid gland from being able to make hormone normally. These drugs are most likely to trigger hypothyroidism in patients who have a genetic tendency to autoimmune thyroid disease.
-Too much or too little iodine.The thyroid gland must have iodine to make thyroid hormone. Iodine comes into the body in food and travels through the blood to the thyroid. Keeping thyroid hormone production in balance requires the right amount of iodine. Taking in too much iodine can cause or worsen hypothyroidism.
-Damage to the pituitary gland.The pituitary, the “master gland,” tells the thyroid how much hormone to make. When the pituitary is damaged by a tumor, radiation, or surgery, it may no longer be able to give the thyroid instructions, and the thyroid may stop making enough hormone.
-Rare disorders that infiltrate the thyroid. In a few people, diseases deposit abnormal substances in the thyroid and impair its ability to function. For example, amyloidosis can deposit amyloid protein, sarcoidosis can deposit granulomas, and hemochromatosis can deposit iron." -
Bad Wigins wrote:
No doubt they'll be handing her a TUE.
They won't hand her anything because thyroid replacement medication isn't banned by WADA you moron. -
Dumb Wigggg wrote:
Hateraid wrote:
Pseudo-pseudo intellectual wrote:
Bad Wigins wrote:
got to "underactive thyroid" and stopped.
Metabolic performance enhancers are cheating - unless you need them to handle an elite-level training load.
No doubt they'll be handing her a TUE.
Next book idea: "how to pretend you're an expert on something you know nothing about"
It does amaze me how ignorant some people are on topics but pretend to be experts. Oh the power of the Internet!
Gladwell, of the oft-debunked and rather moronic Tall Kenyan runner theory once again wades into the deep end and gets thrashed accordingly. Why, oh why do you do it, Malcolm?
I still refuse to believe Bad Wigins is Malcolm Gladwell, as I doubt anyone who posts on here this regularly could also be an oft-discussed writer. I’ve never actually read any of his books though, maybe my opinion would change if I did. -
This smells fishy to me.
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I think this is a cool story (I wonder if Rojo posted it since we often think a like).
I guess some might say it's just the AIU doing what it should do (ie care about a fellow human being) but so many people now a days I feel just do their exact job qualifications instead of thinking about the bigger picture.
Thank you AIU and I hope Tianna keeps doing better. -
wejo wrote:
(I wonder if Rojo posted it since we often think a like).
I am sure you are almost like brothers. -
wejo wrote:
I think this is a cool story (I wonder if Rojo posted it since we often think a like).
I guess some might say it's just the AIU doing what it should do (ie care about a fellow human being) but so many people now a days I feel just do their exact job qualifications instead of thinking about the bigger picture.
Thank you AIU and I hope Tianna keeps doing better.
If the primary reason to not dope is because it is unhealthy, then WADA and AIU should reconsider it's name. Something like WESHA: World Elite Sports Health Agency. Of course something more catchy would be great, but why not have them monitoring iron levels, vitamin d, and the many other markers that are critical to the overall health and performance of the world's elite athletes. A healthy athlete is less likely to turn to PEDs. -
Bad Wigins wrote:
Hi NOP trolls! Go argue with these three MD's who wrote
In athletes, overtraining has been associated with a hypothyroid state, likely a transient one, that is potentially related to increased conversion from T4 to rT3, a less biologically active form 2, 50
https://now.aapmr.org/endocrine-abnormalities-affecting-the-musculoskeletal-system/
another thing that can get run down by overtraining is T levels, should we start handing out TUE's for those too? Because maybe your T levels were from some other condition, despite the fact you were doing fine at an elite level for years before they suddenly dropped?
Give it up, Gladwell. Looks like we're all tired of your $hit. -
Bad Wigins wrote:
got to "underactive thyroid" and stopped.
Metabolic performance enhancers are cheating - unless you need them to handle an elite-level training load.
No doubt they'll be handing her a TUE.
This is comment seems off base or ignorant-- she clearly has a serious problem with heavy menstrual bleeding and hypothyoridism is one potential cause, you know nothing about the facts of her medical condition, if she truly has hypothyroidism this needs to be treated. I am not aware that thyroid hormone (assuming no hypothyroidism) would be advantageous to sprint/ jump training -- different story with endurance sports where weight is a big issue but these hormones lead to catabolism of muscle over time if above physiologic levels.
