Two top British triathletes are DQd after crossing finish line 1-2 at Tokyo Olympic qualifying event holding hands

Ackley wrote:

Another wrote:

Tony Sandoval and Jeff Wells finished a marathon in the 70's hand-in-hand too.

1979 Nike OTC Marathon in 2:10:20. Based on current IAAF course eligibility standards, this would have been the American record at the time (although Bill Rodgers twice ran faster at Boston).

Based on 1979 standards it was the AR back then.

malmo wrote:

Ackley wrote:

1979 Nike OTC Marathon in 2:10:20. Based on current IAAF course eligibility standards, this would have been the American record at the time (although Bill Rodgers twice ran faster at Boston).

Based on 1979 standards it was the AR back then.

Thank you for clarification. My thought was most people understood Bill Rodgers to be the American Record Holder until Salazar came along.

So Malmo, as someone that has been heavily involve in the running community for decades, when did the running community become obsessed with record eligible courses?

Good. It is a race not a parade.

YMMV wrote:

The water temp was 86...that's bathwater! The fastest run legs were 16:30s in 86 degrees with a dewpoint of 78. Arghh

And being a triathlon, it was probably less than 3 full miles.

Ackley wrote:

malmo wrote:

Based on 1979 standards it was the AR back then.

Thank you for clarification. My thought was most people understood Bill Rodgers to be the American Record Holder until Salazar came along.

So Malmo, as someone that has been heavily involve in the running community for decades, when did the running community become obsessed with record eligible courses?

I'm not sure where you are getting your information? Everyone I know knew that Wells and Sandoval set the AR at the 1979 OTC Marathon.

To answer your second question: From the beginning.

This story is not about cross country, but people get disqualified for grasping hands in high school.

https://www.pressdemocrat.com/sports/7008170-181/benefield-debate-swirls-over-scl

I’ve got a 24 year old Asian gf and we’ve finished at the same time a few times.

The lesson is to just run across the finish at the same time without holding hands. One will be placed first and the other will be placed second but everyone will know it was an intentional tie.

When I was in high school we would often let the slower runners win a race at a dual meet so he could get enough points to letter. We would all just run together until the last few yards.

aiding and abetting........ wrote:

When I was in high school we would often let the slower runners win a race at a dual meet so he could get enough points to letter. We would all just run together until the last few yards.

You and your friends are seriously cool for doing that, and I mean it without any sarcasm.

Hidden fences wrote:

Get some real timing equipment and figure out who actually was in front. Doubtful they crossed at the exact time. Use chip tome as a backup in such a case. What do they do if the race actually comes down to a kick-fight? Just because they're holding hands doesn't mean their order of finish can't be seperated.

^That.

Even if a fraction of a second, one finished before the other. Award based on that - . solves the problem and provide deterrence.

San Diego Hobby Jogger wrote:

Triathlon world has too much snowflake "everyone wins mentality". Good this happened.. prevent sand bagging

Silly application of a silly rule. They won the race, the race director by DQing them does not change that. The person who came in third and the crowd know the third place finisher is not the winner.

The biggest loser is the director and the race.

Night observer wrote:

San Diego Hobby Jogger wrote:

Triathlon world has too much snowflake "everyone wins mentality". Good this happened.. prevent sand bagging

Silly application of a silly rule. They won the race, the race director by DQing them does not change that. The person who came in third and the crowd know the third place finisher is not the winner.

The biggest loser is the director and the race.

The race has no problem with people finishing together, just don't hold hands. The race organizers just hate PDA.

57 year old fart wrote:

I’ve got a 24 year old Asian gf and we’ve finished at the same time a few times.

Hot.

Do you use your hands to do it? Or just time it right?

YMMV wrote:

The water temp was 86...that's bathwater! The fastest run legs were 16:30s in 86 degrees with a dewpoint of 78. Arghh

They shortened run from 10k to 5k cause of this....

Meanwhile this is typical weather in the much longer Kona Ironman championships and the course there was never shortened due to heat..

rojo wrote:

Here is an article on how the US selection played out in this race:

https://olympics.nbcsports.com/2019/08/14/summer-rappaport-clinches-olympic-triathlon-berth-in-qualifier-marred-by-heat-and-a-crash/

We got one auto spot from a top 8 finish. Another auto spot will come from the top finisher in some event in April/May and then another will be discretionary.

Can someone tell me why US triathlon picks the team a year out? It makes zero sense to me?

I'd rather do it all based off of 2020 fitness. I mean the top US woman crashed so now someone else has a guaranteed spot.

Think that is stupid the Rugby World Cup is a month or so away and they did the draw years ago and the No. 1 ranked team (New Zealand) is playing the No. 2/3 team (South Africa) who are really No 1 on recent form, in the first pool game.