Going Vegetarian? Going Vegan?

There are viable evolutionary biology arguments to say we needed meat to grow big brains, and we needed starch to grow but brains. The field of evolutionary biology is a fairly soft science, very speculative. It’s easy to look at some variables and infer a causal relationship, but real science is predictive, and the time scale of evolution is too long to prove or disprove many theories it has.

Piano_Man87 wrote:

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The vegan diet is dependent on agriculture, which sterilizes and denudes natural landscapes, killing countless animals and native planets in the process. Veganism is dependent on a variety of imported edible plants. Many are picked by literal slaves. All are transported by vehicles burning damaging fossil fuels. There's no practical way to argue that veganism is "more ethical" than an omnivore or carnivore diet.

Nice job shilling for the agricultural and pharmaceutical companies, boyo.

80% of all farmland is used to grow food for livestock, even though animal products provide about 20% of all calories consumed.

So if you want to help the environment you should go vegan.

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100% of stats quoted by vegans is pulled directly out of their voluminous and odiferous asses.

Only 4% of grains fed to cows is edible by humans, and grains are a subset of all crops. So less that a few percent of cropped farmland is used to feed livestock.

“Only 4% of grains fed to cows is edible by humans, and grains are a subset of all crops. So less that a few percent of cropped farmland is used to feed livestock.”

So are you saying it’s better for the environment to eat beef?

That they are deforesting the Amazon for More cattle agriculture and this is a good thing?

Have you hear of this organization called the UN that says we should move towards a plant based diet to help the environment?

Do you really think that twitter account from a cattle

Farmer is a source of unbiased comprehensive information on the cattle industry?

A gorilla eating an animal doesn’t make it not a vegan. House cats are carnivores and they eat cat grass. It doesn’t make them omnivores. The definition is nuanced.

Piano_Man87 wrote:

“Only 4% of grains fed to cows is edible by humans, and grains are a subset of all crops. So less that a few percent of cropped farmland is used to feed livestock.”

So are you saying it’s better for the environment to eat beef?

That they are deforesting the Amazon for More cattle agriculture and this is a good thing?

Have you hear of this organization called the UN that says we should move towards a plant based diet to help the environment?

Do you really think that twitter account from a cattle

Farmer is a source of unbiased comprehensive information on the cattle industry?

A gorilla eating an animal doesn’t make it not a vegan. House cats are carnivores and they eat cat grass. It doesn’t make them omnivores. The definition is nuanced.

Cattle and other ruminants are ESSENTIAL in preserving the soil quality on which our future on this planet depends. Grass is the most abundant plant and only ruminants can convert grass into 100% bioavailable food while BUILDING the soil and promoting growth of pasture and rangeland. Without regenerative agriculture that incorporates paddock-style grazing, we are effectively mining the soil and destroying the environment every time we plow it for row crops.

The WHO, the UN, Monsanto-Bayer, Seventh-Day Adventist Church among many others are thoroughly invested in a GMO-dependent, crop-based globalist future. They are as far from unbiased as is possible, and unless you consider opposing viewpoints you are just succumbing to media and institutional brainwashing. These powers-that-be are agenda and belief-driven, not interested in the real questions of human or ecosystem health and sustainabilty.

It's true pasture raised animals have less of an environmental impact, but that's just not how most animal agriculture is done. Most of it is done in factory farming operations, where cattle are fed mostly corn (in the USA - where it is heavily subsidized), etc. When you feed an animal a plant like corn that humans can eat, you are going to feed that cow many more calories than you could get than just having the human eat the food in the first place. Then there is also the methane emissions from the cow stomachs, a very potent greenhouse gas. Plus there is the transportation of the cows to slaughterhouses, transportation to meat packing plants, etc.

If you are growing corn to feed to cattle, choosing to eat cattle does not eliminate the issues with growing corn in the first place, that you are outlining (soil degradation). If anything, it INCREASES it because now you need way more corn to grow the cattle, when you could just be eating the corn in the first place.

If you don't trust a UN estimate, then go find me a publication that shows animal protein has a lower carbon footprint than a plant-based protein. I am certainly open to new information on these subjects, but there seems to be overwhelming consensus among researchers than animal protein is horrendous for the environment - when factory farmed. If you are hunting wild game - that's certainly far better for the environment - but it isn't scalable to feed the 7 billion on the planet today.

It's hard only at first time...

You should find a good recipes and everything would be ok!!))

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As long as you are consuming enough calories and carbohydrates than you are consuming enough for your workouts. Big mistake that happens is one focuses too little on getting enough calories when going vegan as it can be really hard to consume that much food when you cut out fat (meat and dairy).

Regardless if you go plant based or not what is important and naturally and intuitively understood is that

when you consider all information available you can clearly comprehend that Epstein didn’t kill himself.

I think this question depends on your overall health. Everybody is individual and has different health issues. Someone might be doing great being vegan, whereas another might have difficulties in regard to lack of nutrients for example. You can never say that vegan is better than vegetarian, or vice versa. Before you make a final decision, I suggest trying both options and then decide what fits our body better. What is cool for both diets, anyway, is the fact that you have so many meal options to choose from. I’m vegan, and most of the times I order from https://dietmenus.com, they have so many good choices there.

My friend was just looking for this information. Thanks