Therese Johaug 10000m 32.20

Thats impressive wrote:

So she ran 32.20 after opening waaay to hard in a solo run.

Her form more like a skier than a runner obviously and using joggers instead of track shoes...

Wonder how good she could have been had she chosen running instead of XC skiing a dozen years ago...

She is a truly amazing athlete; strength to body weight ratio just off the charts.

At the blink rollerski festival her time the 7.5K uphill skate race would have placed her tied for 18th in the

Men's race; tough as nails, super driven. Had she chosen running she clearly would have been world class

but Nordic is the #1 sport in Norway, nothing else comes close; the Ingebrigtsen's for example are huge

outliers as it is a real rarity for athletes of that caliber to not choose Nordic skiing.

extremely good... wrote:

Thats impressive wrote:

So she ran 32.20 after opening waaay to hard in a solo run.

Her form more like a skier than a runner obviously and using joggers instead of track shoes...

Wonder how good she could have been had she chosen running instead of XC skiing a dozen years ago...

She is a truly amazing athlete; strength to body weight ratio just off the charts.

At the blink rollerski festival her time the 7.5K uphill skate race would have placed her tied for 18th in the

Men's race; tough as nails, super driven. Had she chosen running she clearly would have been world class

but Nordic is the #1 sport in Norway, nothing else comes close; the Ingebrigtsen's for example are huge

outliers as it is a real rarity for athletes of that caliber to not choose Nordic skiing.

Amazing athlete? She is a DRUG CHEAT.

D-R-U-G C-H-E-A-T.

We should never cherish the performances of someone who got caught and convicted for doping. NEVER!

LateRunnerPhil wrote:

extremely good... wrote:

She is a truly amazing athlete; strength to body weight ratio just off the charts.

At the blink rollerski festival her time the 7.5K uphill skate race would have placed her tied for 18th in the

Men's race; tough as nails, super driven. Had she chosen running she clearly would have been world class

but Nordic is the #1 sport in Norway, nothing else comes close; the Ingebrigtsen's for example are huge

outliers as it is a real rarity for athletes of that caliber to not choose Nordic skiing.

Amazing athlete? She is a DRUG CHEAT.

D-R-U-G C-H-E-A-T.

We should never cherish the performances of someone who got caught and convicted for doping. NEVER!

Sure. She got caught using a steroid you find in a lip balm at a time where you could see she had a huge blister on her lip..

Her doc resigned as a consequence and even Wada believed her in that it was an accident. (If not, she would have gotten 4 years)

Should she have been more careful before opening package? Sure. Did she deserve the 18 months? Yes! (Read the package, that's your responsibility as an athlete)

Did she do it with the purpose of cheating?

Probably not..

The world is not always Black and White mate!

Lol. That steroid lip balm belongs in the “lame excuses” category right alongside Hamilton’s disappearing twin, van der Poel’s pigeon pie, Roberts’ kissing, and Gatlin’s vengeful masseuse.

LoneStarXC wrote:

Lol. That steroid lip balm belongs in the “lame excuses” category right alongside Hamilton’s disappearing twin, van der Poel’s pigeon pie, Roberts’ kissing, and Gatlin’s vengeful masseuse.

Except they have statement from the pharmacy where they bought the lip balm, plus the amount was so small that it could never mean enhancing anything.

But it is true, I am also not 100% sure it is not a deliberate cheat, my guess is about 90% that she and the doc was stupid/ unable to read the package and 10% on the side that it was part of a plan to make her stronger.

She was careless and the doctor a sacrificial lamb. She paid a high price.

Losing some muscle mass in her upper body, using spikes and running a lot more, she could approach 31min....

She wore the Hoka Carbon X! After Walmsley's record we thought it's a ultrarunning shoe.

LoneStarXC wrote:

Lol. That steroid lip balm belongs in the “lame excuses” category right alongside Hamilton’s disappearing twin, van der Poel’s pigeon pie, Roberts’ kissing, and Gatlin’s vengeful masseuse.

You are entitled to that opinion.

What is a fact though is that 1) she did have a nasty blister on her lip at the time, 2) that the steroid she got busted for is in that lip balm, 3) that the trace amount of steroid was so low it's consistent with her having used it medicinally as a medicin for said blister issue, 4) that the doctor said he had prescribed it and 5) that CAS believed she had taken it for excactly that reason..

But sure. In theory it might be a lame excuse.

Cross-training session.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bk_YqH3gmVE/

Feel free to have that opinion wrote:

LoneStarXC wrote:

Lol. That steroid lip balm belongs in the “lame excuses” category right alongside Hamilton’s disappearing twin, van der Poel’s pigeon pie, Roberts’ kissing, and Gatlin’s vengeful masseuse.

You are entitled to that opinion.

What is a fact though is that 1) she did have a nasty blister on her lip at the time, 2) that the steroid she got busted for is in that lip balm, 3) that the trace amount of steroid was so low it's consistent with her having used it medicinally as a medicin for said blister issue, 4) that the doctor said he had prescribed it and 5) that CAS believed she had taken it for excactly that reason..

But sure. In theory it might be a lame excuse.

She even listed the use of the lip balm herself on the doping control form in connection with the doping test.

18 month drug ban. Don’t forget cross country skiers are super stars in Norway and the whole govt, is behind them . Don’t forget she does about 40 races a season and is almost always in the top 4, She likely still is a juicer , Just a little smarter ,

Thats impressive wrote:

So she ran 32.20 after opening waaay to hard in a solo run.

Her form more like a skier than a runner obviously and using joggers instead of track shoes...

Wonder how good she could have been had she chosen running instead of XC skiing a dozen years ago...

Awesome. Therese Johaug is one of my favorite all time athletes.