Brazier has apparently only been running 35 mpw

Brazier split 45.9 in a 4x400 in high school according to his wikipedia page. He is 400/800 guy which is a long sprinter, so mileage volume for him is not going to be all that important.

400/800 guys are sprinters with a lot of endurance. Like David Rudisha, Khadevis Robinson, Johnny gray

800/1500 guys like Nick Symmonds are distance runners with a lot of speed. Their training, along with their mentality and approach to running are going to be very different.

Hardloper wrote:

Past blast wrote:

He considers himself a 400/800 guy,

He does?

Yes. He said exactly that in his post race interview after his 1500m.

To answer other posters:

Idk how much Engels is running, but he said during indoor that Julian and him talked and they increased his volume and he was unsure about it but is feeling better now. Which likely explains his improvements during outdoor. I also don’t think salazar directly coaches every NOP athletes. Julian has his athletes and Salazar has his. I’m sure they talk, share advice and I’m sure the basic structure of Julian’s training is based on what Salazar has created, but they each coach their respective athletes.

And Murphy has said he does ~60mpw I believe. Probably 70 early in the year and 50-60 maybe in season?

If you have the wheels you can get away with less mileage so long as you do the stamina work.

I suspect that the training scheme is probably similar to Lyle Knudson's multi-pace system where he had middle-distance runners that never when beyond 40 mpw. This low mileage/high intensity training works for a couple of seasons but you ultimately plateau because aerobic metabolism is not developed at the rate that the anaerobic metabolism is developed so you can only go so long without addressing this discrepancy with this type of training.

Ultimately, as he ages, he's gonna have go to 50-60 mpw. Moderate weekly mileage that will allow him to work in high intensity speed work.

moonshot wrote:

Why would he need more than that? He's only race about a mile distance. My high school PR of 4:16.04 was off 17-21 miles per week and I ain't no Brazier talent. 35 mpw is fine for an absolute pro if he manages his weight/nutrition/gym.

That's one reason WHY you run all those miles.

moonshot wrote:

Why would he need more than that? He's only race about a mile distance. My high school PR of 4:16.04 was off 17-21 miles per week and I ain't no Brazier talent. 35 mpw is fine for an absolute pro if he manages his weight/nutrition/gym.

That's one reason WHY you run all those miles.

There have been other world class 800 guys who averaged 35 mpw. Or less. However, unless Brazier really ramps up the mileage, his 35 mpw will be the reason he'll never medal at the WCs or Worlds.

Then again, the whole thing may be BS and Brazier's putting in 60 or more.

Coe miles just multiply by 2.

rmickle wrote:

low mileage/high intensity training works for a couple of seasons but you ultimately plateau because aerobic metabolism is not developed at the rate that the anaerobic metabolism is developed

high intensity training requires more aerobic metabolism, not less, than low-intensity training.

I don't think the mileage matters as much as the cocktail of drugs he's taking.

Brazier DQ wrote:

There have been other world class 800 guys who averaged 35 mpw. Or less. However, unless Brazier really ramps up the mileage, his 35 mpw will be the reason he'll never medal at the WCs or Worlds.

Then again, the whole thing may be BS and Brazier's putting in 60 or more.

^^^

Yes.

Two things that have prevented Brazier from getting through the rounds of heets:

1. Lack of stamina

2. Lack of racing tactics.

....He's either on his game if all's perfect or DFL because he didnt have enough stamina in later heets or stupid racing tactics.

So far he seens to be doing better with NOP and I highly doubt the 35 mpw is his only source of aerobic conditioning

As I always preach at the threads here.....listen now once more and learn! " It`s NOT a matter of how many miles you run in the week!....it`s more a matter of HOW you run your miles in the week! Have a nice weekend! :)

- Magic wand coach -

ThatAverageRunner wrote:

And Craig Engels gives him crap about only actually running 30mpw, so maybe 5 is on an alter G or something.

I'd be interested to see how much he supplements that 30-35 mpw with stuff like the Alter G or other low impact training. Obviously Brazier is super talented but the NOP is probably the best place in the world to maximize return on 35 mpw with all their gizmos and resources.

crisscrosscountry wrote:

ThatAverageRunner wrote:

And Craig Engels gives him crap about only actually running 30mpw, so maybe 5 is on an alter G or something.

I'd be interested to see how much he supplements that 30-35 mpw with stuff like the Alter G or other low impact training. Obviously Brazier is super talented but the NOP is probably the best place in the world to maximize return on 35 mpw with all their gizmos and resources.

You don`t need the NOP thing! Just smart training at an individual level and only enough what it takes to reah your goals. Cheers!

- The Lizzard- )))

This clown is nowhere near the top in the world. Who cares if he's running 35 or 135?