Crazytalk wrote:
in this thread we have Canova ,JS ,Salazar ,Schumacher ,Tin-man ,Daniels ,Simmons ,Mackey ,Lydiard ,Coe and Wetmore all posting anonymously i heard
Must be difficult to have Lydiard post here? lol
Crazytalk wrote:
in this thread we have Canova ,JS ,Salazar ,Schumacher ,Tin-man ,Daniels ,Simmons ,Mackey ,Lydiard ,Coe and Wetmore all posting anonymously i heard
Must be difficult to have Lydiard post here? lol
Scandinavian Star wrote:
It's quite interesting to see people believe it's just a matter of try to copy world top runners training programs, and then they think it will lead to great individual results.Several of the other Norwegian runners have tried to copy the Ingebrigtsen's training , but so far it's still light years in between. Talent has a very great importance!
Think this was the wisest thing in this thread.
I think there is something to be learned from their training though. If you do threshold training correctly and break it up into cruise intervals, you can do much more work than by racing tempos with your teammates. Threshold training is about the best "bang for your buck"- endurance training there is. Of course easy running is the foundation, but I think a lot of distance runners can benefit from this type of training if they can handle it.
of course talent and no other distractions wrote:
I think there is something to be learned from their training though. If you do threshold training correctly and break it up into cruise intervals, you can do much more work than by racing tempos with your teammates. Threshold training is about the best "bang for your buck"- endurance training there is. Of course easy running is the foundation, but I think a lot of distance runners can benefit from this type of training if they can handle it.
The thing is that most coaches and runners here don't understand that this approach already is there in many well known methods before. The only difference is the amount of thresholds.Kipchoge is the fastest marathoner on earth and he also makes these thresholds 1-2 times per week The same theme!
Ingebrigtsen marathon training would be interesting. Their current schedule works great for middle distances and up to the 10k. Adding more mileage, like Former Sub-14’s friend, is tricky. They are already hitting 110-120 miles per week. They’re already at the razor’s edge. Adding more could push one over the top. Maybe just increasing Sunday to two hours but not much else changes. Or making one of either the Tuesday or Thursday sessions a marathon paced session. Like 3x5k instead of 10 min reps.
Dheheehej wrote:
Ingebrigtsen marathon training would be interesting. Their current schedule works great for middle distances and up to the 10k. Adding more mileage, like Former Sub-14’s friend, is tricky. They are already hitting 110-120 miles per week. They’re already at the razor’s edge. Adding more could push one over the top. Maybe just increasing Sunday to two hours but not much else changes. Or making one of either the Tuesday or Thursday sessions a marathon paced session. Like 3x5k instead of 10 min reps.
I thought about this too. They could cut the hill repeats on Saturday and make that a combo long run / marathon pace workout. Like 20 miles progressing to the last 3 around marathon pace.
This would certainly hurt their 1500 speed, however, this combined with those double threshold days would give them enormous marathon strength. Even if they just did it every other week.
Also it might make them sub 13 5k guys. But again it will likely hurt their 1500.
Once you have strength , everything else can be added very quickly
I know coach Mike Hickey (Alexa Efraimson's coach) and Marcus O'Sullivan (Villanova) both use heart rate training to control effort. This training week looks very light, but if it is true that is very interesting. Those young men are rolling.