British gold medalist & ‘sports icon’ implicated in blood doping

milermb wrote:

Wiggins? He won the time trial gold, didn't he?

Wiggins is not the one, because the IAAF was blamed for not acting, not the UCI.

Un-sir'ed wrote:

Can a "sir" ever be revoked?

Yes but it requires a lot. It’s called “debasement” - the CEO of the Royal Bank of Scotland had his pulled like 8-9 years ago after he drove that bank into the ground. Or you have to have been a spy for the Nazis during WW2. Hell, it took Robert Mugabe destroying a country to have his removed.

Short of driving over the Queen’s Corgis in a Range Rover, his knighthood is safe. And even if they did pull his knighthood, his chav wife would never stop complaining because she loves being a professional victim.

Also, why do Americans love calling knighted Brits “Sir?” I thought there was a revolution to get away from nobility?

But if Farah was stripped of his 2012 gold that means PAUL MF CHELIMO is a gold medalist. That would be badass.

What is the realistic chance Farah would get stripped of any Olympic medals?

Someone give me a percentage, please.

strip MO

...PAUL CHELIMO

amnesty internationalist wrote:

not a betting man wrote:

My votes would be Paula, Froome...who knows.

Listen to the documentary and it says London Olympian, Gold Medalist, British, Icon.

London gold medalists were Farah, Ennis, and Rutherford.

Farah is the icon out of those three. Ennis comes close, but it's blood passport which likely means EPO, which means Farah is the one.

It's not that hard.

Didn't Bradley Wiggins (cyclist) win a gold medal at London just weeks after winning the Tour de France? He's a pretty big icon in the UK with links to a shady cycling team.

Seriously mate? wrote:

amnesty internationalist wrote:

Listen to the documentary and it says London Olympian, Gold Medalist, British, Icon.

London gold medalists were Farah, Ennis, and Rutherford.

Farah is the icon out of those three. Ennis comes close, but it's blood passport which likely means EPO, which means Farah is the one.

It's not that hard.

Didn't Bradley Wiggins (cyclist) win a gold medal at London just weeks after winning the Tour de France? He's a pretty big icon in the UK with links to a shady cycling team.

Guess I should've read through the thread before commenting.

just wanna know wrote:

What is the realistic chance Farah would get stripped of any Olympic medals?

Someone give me a percentage, please.

zero.

Seriously mate? wrote:

Seriously mate? wrote:

Didn't Bradley Wiggins (cyclist) win a gold medal at London just weeks after winning the Tour de France? He's a pretty big icon in the UK with links to a shady cycling team.

Guess I should've read through the thread before commenting.

Why would you start there? This is the forum for making poorly educated observations and stating BS to be passed off as fact. Please don't break the trend.

Coevett wrote:

I hope this is real and Mo gets caught, but both the article and the short anonymous comments on this thread all have the feel of Putin trolls. Casual Observski and his team have been busy today.

And what is the difference between this and the ABP suspicious blood values the Fancy Bears exposed? Don't we already know that Mo (and quite a few others) had suspicious values?

I don't think the story being reported in the Telegraph is a Putin troll. This comes from the French charging documents in the Diack case. It is not the first time it has surfaced, however, as this was covered during the Habib Cisse case.

casual obsever wrote:

Coevett wrote:

Weird - you admit that the ABP is far from perfect then offer it as proof that individuals flagged on it are doping.

"admit"? It's not a coin toss - we all know that the ABP has extremely generous thresholds which allow many drug cheats to have inconspicuous values, see the Poistogova saga for example, or the Ashenden 2011 paper.

So then crashing through these generous thresholds is a sign of rather bold blood doping.

Would you two idiots please go back to your other postings? I'm asking you kindly to not come in here and ruin another thread with your childish banter and faux-expert gibberish.

Please go away wrote:

Would you two idiots please go back to your other postings? I'm asking you kindly to not come in here and ruin another thread with your childish banter and faux-expert gibberish.

LOL, in a troll thread about a cra ppy troll article filled with likely Putin trolls you're complaining about the quality of our posts.

Confused . wrote:

Please could someone explain how the LRC Farah hatred works please:-

On this thread I read that he is a dirty drugs cheat who only won because he was doped to his eyeballs.

Yet on another I read he doesn't even qualify as a top 10 all time great because he was too slow, never troubled any world records.

So what is the overall story? Are we saying he was an absolutely useless drugs cheat?

I'll explain this for you. Different people post different things on letsrun. It's not just one person posting on letsrun.

Can you please explain why you were confused by this concept?

Coevett wrote:

Please go away wrote:

Would you two idiots please go back to your other postings? I'm asking you kindly to not come in here and ruin another thread with your childish banter and faux-expert gibberish.

LOL, in a troll thread about a cra ppy troll article filled with likely Putin trolls you're complaining about the quality of our posts.

I don't know a ton about Putin, but just about every time I listen to his public comments / speeches on YouTube I tend to agree with the things that he says. He's extremely pragmatic and sensible. Of course, these are just words coming out of his mouth. The things that he does might be different, but I don't know enough about those things to comment. But the point is that I have a hard time finding fault in ideas and concepts he promotes in his public appearances. That's only true for probably 40% of the US politicians I hear and about 1% of the other Euro politicians I hear.

just wanna know wrote:

What is the realistic chance Farah would get stripped of any Olympic medals?

Someone give me a percentage, please.

Zero unless an ABP case is opened. The sample(s) from London would have to be examined and compared with the rest of the longitudinal profile. Any anomalies detected from the London sample(s) would have to show satisfactory evidence of doping, and agreed upon by three (3) IAAF anti-doping experts. As "casual obsever" referenced, the IAAF experts would have to conclude that "it is likely that the Passport is the result the Use of a Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method and it is highly unlikely that it may be the result of a normal physiological or pathological condition."

Even at that point the athlete can appeal to CAS, who will review the case and hear testimony from the anti-doping experts as well as from the athlete and any experts the athlete wishes to have testify on thier behalf. CAS makes the final decision and if the IAAF's case against the athlete is upheld they decide what medals, titles, times, etc., would be annulled.

Coevett wrote:

Weird - you admit that the ABP is far from perfect then offer it as proof that individuals flagged on it are doping.

It's the best thing they have Coevett to prevent that "full-throttle doping" from the 90s & 00s that you talk about.

Coevett wrote:

Please go away wrote:

Would you two idiots please go back to your other postings? I'm asking you kindly to not come in here and ruin another thread with your childish banter and faux-expert gibberish.

LOL, in a troll thread about a cra ppy troll article filled with likely Putin trolls you're complaining about the quality of our posts.

You're correct. Please move along, Captain Thread Ruiner.

Confused . wrote:

Please could someone explain how the LRC Farah hatred works please:-

So what is the overall story? Are we saying he was an absolutely useless drugs cheat?

Yes. That is it exactly. Doorbell mo is an absolutely useless drugs cheat. A worthless pos. One of the worst human beings on the planet. Hopefully, he and radcliffe spend many years in prison.

Doped at the Olympics? Probably not. If he doped, it was probably during the period leading up to the Olympics.