Official 2019 Western States 100 Live Discussion Thread

Videos posted on iRunfar seem to show both Jared and Jim have a ridiculously slow stride rate. What's up with that? What is Jared's 5km PB? Daniels is a sub 4 min miler

mooonshot wrote:

Alright, technically, Matt Daniels has run 13:50.71 to Walmsley's 13:52.87, but Daniels is in 3rd in his debut.

Walmsley is the fastest steeplechaser in the field.

It's what you do that defines you wrote:

miles 2 miles wrote:

The correct mindset is to let your actions do the talking. Not the other way around.

Not cocky at all. If you get into the right mindset on a really long run it is mentally over much faster--mental time compression. If you are looking aheads and hoping to see the finish line the run mentally takes a lot longer--mental time expansion. The same applies to most anything you might do that consists of repetition: assembly line work is one example.

The correct mindset is to let your actions do the talking. Not the other way around.

Nope. Wrong, little-minded one. What you talk about when you are not running makes absolutely no difference when you are running.

It's what you do that defines you wrote:

The correct mindset is to let your actions do the talking. Not the other way around.

In today's world of social media talking is all what matters.

Until reality kicks in.

Rudonkulous wrote:

Videos posted on iRunfar seem to show both Jared and Jim have a ridiculously slow stride rate. What's up with that?

What is Jared's 5km PB? Daniels is a sub 4 min miler

mooonshot wrote:

Alright, technically, Matt Daniels has run 13:50.71 to Walmsley's 13:52.87, but Daniels is in 3rd in his debut.

Walmsley is the fastest steeplechaser in the field.

Jim is 160 steps per minute. Eats up trails like a combine.

Yeah I am pretty sure stride rate is the least talked about metric in running 100 miles. The dude just floats on the trails.

miles 2 miles wrote:

Nope. Wrong, little-minded one. What you talk about when you are not running makes absolutely no difference when you are running.

Nope. You set yourself up for failure.

You have to be mentally prepared for reality. Talking BS before the race makes a big difference in your head during the race. Just ask Camille Herron right now. She is only thinking about all the BS she said in the last couple of days.

15th place baby!

This thread is getting too mean spirited. Can't we all just go back to making fun on Camille and Mocko like adults? There is so much material to work with. Both are going to get crushed by Courtney, and both are the most overrated runner in the sport in their collective sex (assuming Mocko is actually a cismale).

Looking like a close race actually. Walmsley has very little time on Hazen if things go wrong. 9 minutes is nothing, but he did make the gap larger recently and looks good.

The last 40 miles usually has tons of carnage for the top 20 or so with people moving up and dropping back significantly. I wonder if there will be much less of that today with the amazing cool and cloudy conditions they are running in relative to the norm.

Also, whoever said Camille dropped out looks wrong. They are showing her in 15th for the female race, which is great position to get top 10 with over half the race to go still. Funny how much people want to bag on her to the point that they will lie about something like that.

Mocko is in great position too. Going to be interesting to see how everything shakes out.

Recent video analyzing Walmsley's running form:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSZbO0ixMLQ&feature=youtu.be&t=34

Mental games wrote:

The valuable part of you post is copied above.

PS. Leave the discussion to the adult, little guy.

apiro wrote:

Looking like a close race actually. Walmsley has very little time on Hazen if things go wrong. 9 minutes is nothing....

Walmsley always has some type of side adventure on his runs. Falling asleep, swimming, long walks on parts of the course, long walks off course, stopping for bear cubs ..... he has the eye of the tigger.

apiro wrote:

Looking like a close race actually. Walmsley has very little time on Hazen if things go wrong. 9 minutes is nothing, but he did make the gap larger recently and looks good.

The last 40 miles usually has tons of carnage for the top 20 or so with people moving up and dropping back significantly. I wonder if there will be much less of that today with the amazing cool and cloudy conditions they are running in relative to the norm.

Also, whoever said Camille dropped out looks wrong. They are showing her in 15th for the female race, which is great position to get top 10 with over half the race to go still. Funny how much people want to bag on her to the point that they will lie about something like that.

Mocko is in great position too. Going to be interesting to see how everything shakes out.

Yup, isn't the saying "the race starts at Foresthill" for Western States. Those last 38 miles are the most runnable when your legs are the tiredest and tend to reward faster runners provided they haven't spent themselves early in the race. Given the relatively cool temps this year, I think it's going to even more favor runners with good leg speed which is a plus for Camille. None of the women have hit Foresthill yet. Also, the women's field this year is pretty off the hook. I don't think anyone is going to beat Courtney, but I doubt Kaci Lickteig is going to lose her podium spot either, and there are plenty of other strong women who seem to be running a smart race.

Jim and Jared seem strong as hell, but we'll see how Matt Daniels holds up over this next half of the race. A lot of fast guys lose it around mile 60-70.

If by Mocko is in good position, you mean: to lose to Courtney, then you, sir, are correct.

eye of the tigger wrote:

apiro wrote:

Looking like a close race actually. Walmsley has very little time on Hazen if things go wrong. 9 minutes is nothing....

Walmsley always has some type of side adventure on his runs. Falling asleep, swimming, long walks on parts of the course, long walks off course, stopping for bear cubs ..... he has the eye of the tigger.

Walmsley also got himself drunk the night before his first WS run. Who knows what he was thinking.

Camille is not going to pass Claire Gallagher either. So she's looking at 4th female best case scenario. When you are the self proclaimed greatest female ultra runner that is not exactly a huge accomplishment.

In that regard she (like Mocko) is like the Patrick Reed of the PGA Tout to the running world.

Walmsley is now 5 seconds per mile ahead of 14 hour flat pace. Sounds like a small margin but over 100 miles it is a decent cushion (a little over 8 minutes).

Real news. Yea! wrote:

Camille Herron is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OVERRATED. Is she sponsored?

Hoka sponsored post wrote:

She was until today. This must be such an embarrassment for Nike , Squirrl Nut butter, Coros and Butcherbox meat delivery.

Your post is cruel and unusual punishment.

AP5000 wrote:

Camille is not going to pass Claire Gallagher either. So she's looking at 4th female best case scenario. When you are the self proclaimed greatest female ultra runner that is not exactly a huge accomplishment.

In that regard she (like Mocko) is like the Patrick Reed of the PGA Tout to the running world.

Clare could continue to crush, or she could blow up. She's had some blow ups in her longer races, but also some spectacular races. Kaci's training has been very strong and consistent and she knows this course and loves this race like no other, which is why I don't think she will fade. She had to get in via Golden Ticket this year because last year she raced coming off a long injury, so she's hungry for it. Other women in the mix I would bet on before Camille: Kaytlyn Gerbin, Brittany Peterson, Yiou Wang, Beth Pascall, Nicole Bitter, and Amanda Basham. I think she has a shot at the top 10, but top 5 is unlikely.