[quote]Not Born in the USA wrote:
So people over 40 are willing to vote for any Democratic nominee, because they think beating Trump is the most important thing.
Young people only vote for Bernie, and couldn't care less if it is between Trump and Biden, because they are so pissed off at the MSM and Dem establishment.
And the first group is more selfish than the second? Yeah, that makes perfect sense. [quote]
Lol dems under 40 aren't actually going to vote for Trump or not show up you dingus.
Bernie is going to style all over everyone tonight. 35% +/- 5% is my prediction. How that translates into delegates I'm not sure.
Tulsi is still running ...
31:34 5K yesterday in NH
Trump wrote:
moanswers wrote:
My thread "Iowa caucuses, who you got" was deleted. But it's time to start placing bets! i've got biden FTW with bernie in a close second.
Hey Libs!
Remember what happened in 2016?
https://youtu.be/WYCH-bZ3XNE
Crazy Bernie is getting screwed again!
Democrats should get used to not having a winner on election night in November. Haha!!
KAG2020
Honestly, Dems can’t do the most basic things. Didn’t the Obamacare website cost a fortune and not work? Now they can’t run a basic state election. But they want to run our health care. No thanks. What a bunch of incompetent fools.
Which is too bad, because Trump is dipsh!t too.
Our choice in November will be between incompetence and blatant abuse of power. Great!
This is not a basic state election.
It's a caucus with odd but interesting rules.
People gather and discuss who they like then go to stations, or something like that.
This happens all over the state and they compile it together.
And it's mostly run by volunteers.
It may be a good thing to have this delay. It's certainly good for anyone that wasn't top two.
Too much emphasis on the first state, anyway.
Pundits are panicking how each candidate will run out of money or something without touting these results in Iowa. They had to leave for New Hampshire.
In a few weeks we'll all be looking at Super Tuesday and forgetting Iowa.
But on November 4 (the day after the presidential election), there may not be a declared winner (like 2000).
That's tough in the instant info era.
It's mostly the media freaking out about this.
It will have zero impact on the nomination and the general election.
But have fun now mocking it. Why not. It's pretty wacky.
This delay is a huge win for Joe Biden. Biden finished somewhere between 3rd to 5th yesterday in Iowa but he gets to carry on today as if he's still the front runner. This mostly likely will be a phony win for Buttigieg. MSNBC commentators hate Senator Sanders. Commentators at MSNBC have been degrading Senator Sanders for months. Some undercover Bernie Bros do not want to admit to supporting Senator Sanders openly in a caucus. If Joe Biden gets a bloody nose, there is no reason why Senator Sanders will not win southern states. There is no way Buttigieg will do well in southern states.
Wait where did you find the results from yesterday?
turbidity wrote:
Wait where did you find the results from yesterday?
Rumors based on evidence. Candidates have their internal unofficial numbers. That's why Buttigieg declared victory.
The Dems are phukked, becoming akin to the British Labour Party. Watching MSNBC right now and James Carville is raking the party over the coals, and he's right. The Dems have wandered into wingnut territory with massive focus on racial and gender ID politics, open borders, non-kitchen-table ideology.
Jeesus H Chrisst, we're facing another four years of Drumpf. Cannot believe it, but it's coming. PHUKK YOU DEMS for continuing to fall on your idiot faces.
L L wrote:
This is not a basic state election.
It's a caucus with odd but interesting rules.
People gather and discuss who they like then go to stations, or something like that.
This happens all over the state and they compile it together.
And it's mostly run by volunteers.
It may be a good thing to have this delay. It's certainly good for anyone that wasn't top two.
Too much emphasis on the first state, anyway.
Pundits are panicking how each candidate will run out of money or something without touting these results in Iowa. They had to leave for New Hampshire.
In a few weeks we'll all be looking at Super Tuesday and forgetting Iowa.
But on November 4 (the day after the presidential election), there may not be a declared winner (like 2000).
That's tough in the instant info era.
It's mostly the media freaking out about this.
It will have zero impact on the nomination and the general election.
But have fun now mocking it. Why not. It's pretty wacky.
Well, that's the point. Its not a basic state election, but it certainly could be. The Iowa Dems choose to do these stupid caucuses and overcomplicate something that doesn't need to be complicated.
Before this whole fiasco, I went and read the rules for both the caucus and how they elect delegates and I laughed out loud at how complicated it was. Geezus, just hold a statewide primary and be done with it.
UsedToBeKnowItAll wrote:
L L wrote:
This is not a basic state election.
It's a caucus with odd but interesting rules.
People gather and discuss who they like then go to stations, or something like that.
This happens all over the state and they compile it together.
And it's mostly run by volunteers.
It may be a good thing to have this delay. It's certainly good for anyone that wasn't top two.
Too much emphasis on the first state, anyway.
Pundits are panicking how each candidate will run out of money or something without touting these results in Iowa. They had to leave for New Hampshire.
In a few weeks we'll all be looking at Super Tuesday and forgetting Iowa.
But on November 4 (the day after the presidential election), there may not be a declared winner (like 2000).
That's tough in the instant info era.
It's mostly the media freaking out about this.
It will have zero impact on the nomination and the general election.
But have fun now mocking it. Why not. It's pretty wacky.
Well, that's the point. Its not a basic state election, but it certainly could be. The Iowa Dems choose to do these stupid caucuses and overcomplicate something that doesn't need to be complicated.
Before this whole fiasco, I went and read the rules for both the caucus and how they elect delegates and I laughed out loud at how complicated it was. Geezus, just hold a statewide primary and be done with it.
1) Senator Sanders won the most votes on the first round of voting at 2020 Iowa Caucus.
2) After the votes for candidates with less than 15% had to be spread around to the candidates who had more than 15% in first round, Senator Sanders won the most votes in second round of voting at 2020 Iowa Caucus.
3) Iowa Caucus uses crazy math. Votes in rural areas of Iowa are greater than one vote per person. Based on crazy Iowa Caucus math, Mayor Buttigieg earned the most delegates in Iowa Caucus if everything continues based on numbers stated.
4) A lot of fuse for nothing in Iowa. Big fat orange fella will win Iowa & Indiana in 2020 election.
5) I sure hope U.S. citizens find their inner Bernie Bro and support Senator Sanders. Mayor Buttigieg would win four states and only four states against big fat orange fella (CA/HI/OR/WA). Mayor Buttigieg knows he cannot win a statewide election in his home state of Indiana.
Original Bernie Bro wrote:
5) I sure hope U.S. citizens find their inner Bernie Bro and support Senator Sanders. Mayor Buttigieg would win four states and only four states against big fat orange fella (CA/HI/OR/WA). Mayor Buttigieg knows he cannot win a statewide election in his home state of Indiana.
Bernie couldn't win an election in Indiana either. It's a red state.
UsedToBeKnowItAll wrote:
Original Bernie Bro wrote:
5) I sure hope U.S. citizens find their inner Bernie Bro and support Senator Sanders. Mayor Buttigieg would win four states and only four states against big fat orange fella (CA/HI/OR/WA). Mayor Buttigieg knows he cannot win a statewide election in his home state of Indiana.
Bernie couldn't win an election in Indiana either. It's a red state.
Those in Indiana want healthcare for all. Parents in Indiana with high school students in their house want to send their kids to Ball State, Indiana State and University of Indiana tuition free. Those in Indianapolis would love to ride high speed rail from Indianapolis, IN to Chicago, IL. Twenty-five year old parents of young children want free daycare. We just can't tell the people of IN it is democratic socialism. Call the benefits Eagle Freedom Benefits.
When Trump is the adult in the room, you know you've lost.
Original Bernie Bro wrote:
This delay is a huge win for Joe Biden. Biden finished somewhere between 3rd to 5th yesterday in Iowa but he gets to carry on today as if he's still the front runner. This mostly likely will be a phony win for Buttigieg. MSNBC commentators hate Senator Sanders. Commentators at MSNBC have been degrading Senator Sanders for months. Some undercover Bernie Bros do not want to admit to supporting Senator Sanders openly in a caucus. If Joe Biden gets a bloody nose, there is no reason why Senator Sanders will not win southern states. There is no way Buttigieg will do well in southern states.
Them southern blacks dont like batty boys!
Biden is not a viable candidate.
Maybe they over complicate the caucus process in Iowa but the media over emphasizes it.
The political media are frothing at the mouth for an election to cover and are flipping out over this.
This is a million news cycles away from the general election and will be long forgotten.
And in this case, it will have much less impact on the nomination process than before.
That's probably good.
I think NH will be a better indicator of where everyone really stands. i'm happy with the result but i'm thinking it's sampling error due to who came out in Iowa.