Democrat presidential debate official thread

NotPC wrote:

L L wrote:

I'm pretty sure they told him not to run in 2016.

They have done it again. That guy doesn't appear to be lucid. Trump has many many many faults, but I think he will destroy Joe in a debate. For all that is Donald Trump, at this point he does not appear to be elderly like Joe.

Drop the Warren, she's just a mess of a candidate.

Drop Joe- too old.

Bernie is a joke.

Buttigig- not ready- yet.

Run Bloomberg teamed up with (insert minority) and be done with it.

Maybe since Senator Sanders is either a son or grandson of European immigrants, Senator Sanders is not afraid to look to Europe to see what does and does not work. You must be of a certain age. You must be comfortable the way things are. You must not be a change for the better type person.

What works:

1) High speed rail connecting all cities larger than 1/2 million works and is not a joke.

2) Government sponsored health care for all works in aggregate. Aggregate means it helps most while only make a small number of people slightly worse. I doubt you are a billionaire. Attacking Senator Sanders is what billionaires want you to do.

3) Free public school education K through grade 16 (BA/BS/trade school) is good for a society and good for most people. Multi-millionaires & billionaires have gone to media complaining about every public program in U.S. The multi-millionaires & billionaires eighty-five years ago complained about the prospects of social security. The multi-millionaires & billionaires complained about Medicare & Medicaid app. 55 years ago.

Senator Sanders is not a joke. Since most likely you are not a multi-millionaire or billionaire, no need for you to cut down Senator Sanders.

Sanders the #1 choice of warmongers, spies and other swamp things

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/11/08/2020-presidential-election-democratic-candidates-national-security-employees-contributions/

Usually, both you and Bad Wigins are articulate debaters. I stated the three best aspects of Senator Sanders being promoted to U.S. President. All you two were able to do is cut and paste.

I'll pretended you were debating me. I will detail the advantages of: 1) Free public education K to 16 (BA/BS/trade school); 2) High speed rail; 3) government sponsored health care.

An educated populous drives away superstition. The Age of Enlightenment encouraged rational thinking. We need more rational thoughtful educated people in U.S. Liberal Arts education is actually good. An educated work force attracts international capital. There are advantages for U.S. workers when Toyota and Mercedes-Benz build plants in U.S. Since we all benefit from educated citizens in U.S., we should all pay. No Means Testing higher education as stated by Senator Amy Klobuchar. If a program excludes wealthy people, wealthy people will want to do away with said program.

Think about all the individuals in U.S. who are not healthy enough to drive &/or have had their license taken away for one reason or another. Do we throw people away? No! I have lived in tri-state area (CT/NY/NJ) and Chicago. A robust public transportation system is efficient. Rail within large cities is efficient. High speed rail connecting cities is efficient. Rail allows for mobility of labor. All the capitalists (Capitalist: One who owns and controls means of production) on let'srun should want workers to be able to get to work efficiently. [Most so-called capitalists on let'srun are merely stooges of capitalists.]

People say if F.D.R. would have lived through his 4th term, F.D.R. would have advocated for government sponsored health care for all. [Maybe that is a bunch of crap. LA Governor Huey Long was going to run for president against F.D.R., 1936 on a platform of government sponsored health care for all. Note: Long was assassinated by a medical doctor, 1935. A doctor who was a stooge for billionaires.] F.D.R. with U.S. Congress had an informal wage ceiling. Top income marginal tax rate from 1930s to early 1960s was usually over 90%. With an informal wage freeze, large profitable corporations offered great benefit packages to employees which included health care. U.S. ended up having health care tied in with employers. This is extremely inefficient. Capitalists on let's run should want future entrepreneurs not to have to worry about their personal health care. Young future entrepreneurs should not have to worry about providing health care for employees. A government sponsored health care program for all is efficient for a civilized society. Efficient for patients. Efficient for managers. Efficient for families. Efficient for workers. A government sponsored health care plan is only disliked by extremely wealthy capitalists. The wealthy capitalists want employees to need to depend on wealthy capitalists for their health care.

I could go on.

If anything I stated you do not like, use your own words. No cutting and pasting please.

Interesting to see Sanders and Biden call out Netanyahu.

Klobuchar getting a lot of screen time tonight.

Bloomberg sucks wrote:

NotPC wrote:

And Joe Biden does a have a compelling reason? A legit criticism of Joe would be to ask what he wants to accomplish, and why he didn't do that as VP for 8 years?

Personally, I think wanting DT out is reason enough.

I totally agree with you that there is no compelling reason to vote for Joe Biden as the nominee.

He is a bad candidate. I think Bloomberg is worse, but it is close. I won't be voting for either of them.

ALL of them are bad candidates. Trump wins again!

L L wrote:

Midwest and southern voters agree wrote:

Trump will be easily re-elected!!!

GOP will retake the house and expand the senate majority!!!!

Democrats and their media handlers are going to accuse everyone of being racist.

That's great. What's the point of even commenting on a Democrat debate thread then?

You're giving the Democrats the same chance that Flagpole gave Trump last time.

If Cankles enters this race, she becomes your best shot but she still has no shot to win.

Trump cannot and will not lose next year. America is not electing a socialist in 2020.

Bloomberg sucks wrote:

NotPC wrote:

And Joe Biden does a have a compelling reason? A legit criticism of Joe would be to ask what he wants to accomplish, and why he didn't do that as VP for 8 years?

Personally, I think wanting DT out is reason enough.

I totally agree with you that there is no compelling reason to vote for Joe Biden as the nominee.

He is a bad candidate. I think Bloomberg is worse, but it is close. I won't be voting for either of them.

Be careful, Little Mikey is agip's hero.

Bernie is NOT a joke wrote:

I'll pretended you were debating me. I will detail the advantages of: 1) Free public education K to 16 (BA/BS/trade school); 2) High speed rail; 3) government sponsored health care.

I wasn't debating you. If you want to debate me, either disprove that Sanders is the favorite Dem among the military/spy industry, or argue that it doesn't matter and these soc-dem programs alone qualify him.

Yang all the way. Only articulate and sensible candidate on the stage.

ThatAverageRunner wrote:

Yang all the way. Only articulate and sensible candidate on the stage.

Looks like he will win this debate.

I've been a Mayor Pete fan for awhile, but as he's ascended, my opinion of him has cooled a bit, not sure why.

I really like Yang and Klobuchar.

ThatAverageRunner wrote:

Yang all the way. Only articulate and sensible candidate on the stage.

I've never heard of that guy but at least he is young enough. I honestly don't understand why so many people try to beat Trump by nominating a candidate who is 70 or 80 years old. Especially right now with so many future challenges, younger leaders are needed.

Biden and klobuchar won that debate. The progressives are losing steam. Young people who tell pollsters that they support Yang, tend not to vote. Yang is playing a game and knows he has no chance to win. Yang thinks running for president is a neat experience. There is a reason why Trump has risked his standing and presidency to do anything he can to take down biden. Trump fears Biden. Trump does not want to debate anyone who has a temper. Does anyone think Biden would put up with Trump doing the weird creepy thing behind him like trump did to Hillary. Too bad Klobuchar is not black, she would make a great VP.

Baltsu wrote:

ThatAverageRunner wrote:

Yang all the way. Only articulate and sensible candidate on the stage.

I've never heard of that guy but at least he is young enough. I honestly don't understand why so many people try to beat Trump by nominating a candidate who is 70 or 80 years old. Especially right now with so many future challenges, younger leaders are needed.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Bloomberg sucks wrote:

I totally agree with you that there is no compelling reason to vote for Joe Biden as the nominee.

He is a bad candidate. I think Bloomberg is worse, but it is close. I won't be voting for either of them.

Be careful, Little Mikey is agip's hero.

agip never met a neoliberal, status-quo candidate he couldn't love.

NotPC wrote:

The parties make their own rules. And can pick and chose who they want to represent them, there's nothing illegal about it.

That is absolutely illegal, unlawful, unethical, inhumane, and it's against the US Constitution.