stupidity at it's best wrote:
In Ovett defense wrote:
That's why Ovett won this in 86:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athletics_at_the_1986_Commonwealth_Games_%E2%80%93_Men%27s_5000_metresYou think a win in 86 contradicts the claim his decline started in 78? Have you never learned to use your brain? Try harder.
When did he have that knee surgery? That might've affected his ability to do specific 800/1500 workouts.
stupidity at it's best wrote:
Coevett wrote:
You mean absolutely zero evidence other than they were as fast as East Africans.
No, I mean all of the many reasons which you have listed so often for the East Africans which hold also true for Coe and Ovett. For example the very early decline (starting at 22 for Ovett and 24 for Coe) from this thread.
You're probably the only person in the entire world who thinks Ovett declined from age 22, which he was in 1977.
There's a case that he may have been at his best in 1978, but if he was it was likely because of his training history. I think Deano has suggested here that he neglected his speed work a bit after 78.
Besides, I don't know what the f you are talking about. I've stated in this very thread that I think Kipchoge is 2.or 3 years older than he claims. I don't think reaching a peak at 22 is evidence of drug use. I think being an age cheat and moving to the roads where there's less testing and coming from a country where dopjng is rampant is evidence.
Coevett wrote:
stupidity at it's best wrote:
No, I mean all of the many reasons which you have listed so often for the East Africans which hold also true for Coe and Ovett. For example the very early decline (starting at 22 for Ovett and 24 for Coe) from this thread.
You're probably the only person in the entire world who thinks Ovett declined from age 22, which he was in 1977.
He was at his peak in 78 when he was 22. Then he started to decline.