Global warming isn't doing too well these days

The last 5 years have been the hottest for the earth on record.

The last 5 years have been the hottest for the earth on record.

I thought I needed to state that twice.

Deniers will state

(1) it's not true

(2) so what, temperatures fluctuate

(3) something like well the atmosphere is finite blah blah blah

(4) how about that time science was wrong.

Deniers, sometimes it's easier just to accept the truth.

what are you talking about? wrote:

Actually, Actually wrote:

Uh, that didn’t actually happen. You’re just repeating things you heard climate change deniers say.

https://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/abs/10.1175/2008BAMS2370.1

https://realclimatescience.com/climate-scientists-rewriting-the-past/

If you’d read the link I provided, you’d see 1) Climatology didn’t exist in the 70s. It was largely paleontologists who were studying previous ice ages that “predicted” the next one. 2) The majority of the scientific community was talking about global warming from increasing c02 levels as early as the 1950s. 3) The lay media then (National Geographic included) sold a coming ice age in conflict with what most scientists at the time thought. 4) The lay media has been perpetuating this myth since the 90s; on the right because their heads are in the sand, like yours and in the main stream because it sort of makes a cute story about how much smarter everyone is now.

As I stated a few posts back. It never happened.

Conundrum wrote:

The last 5 years have been the hottest for the earth on record.

The last 5 years have been the hottest for the earth on record.

Except that one time when Earth was a ball of molten rock. It's not nearly as hot now. Rather pleasant, comparatively, if you ask me.

Actually, Actually wrote:

As I stated a few posts back. It never happened.

Except it did happen, some scientist said x and some didn't. You may move the goal post and say something along the lines those scientist weren't qualified, but it still happened.

Except that one time wrote:

Conundrum wrote:

The last 5 years have been the hottest for the earth on record.

The last 5 years have been the hottest for the earth on record.

Except that one time when Earth was a ball of molten rock. It's not nearly as hot now. Rather pleasant, comparatively, if you ask me.

On record

what are you talking about? wrote:

Actually, Actually wrote:

As I stated a few posts back. It never happened.

Except it did happen, some scientist said x and some didn't. You may move the goal post and say something along the lines those scientist weren't qualified, but it still happened.

I think we’re agreeing. Some scientists didn’t know what they were talking about in the 70s. The vast majority did. And virtually all do now. There’s a crackpot or two out there, I’m sure. You are not a scientist. Therefore your opinion on the subject isn’t worth a whole lot. Except a whole lot of people with opinions like yours are making the problem worse.

Conundrum wrote:

The last 5 years have been the hottest for the earth on record.

The last 5 years have been the hottest for the earth on record.

I thought I needed to state that twice.

Deniers will state

(1) it's not true

(2) so what, temperatures fluctuate

(3) something like well the atmosphere is finite blah blah blah

(4) how about that time science was wrong.

Deniers, sometimes it's easier just to accept the truth.

Or (5) just make a joke of it.

Or, (6) just ignore it.

Let me repeat, the last 5 years have been the hottest for the earth on record.

Conundrum wrote:

On record

I guess that geology isn't actual science like "climatology."

Actually, actually wrote:

what are you talking about? wrote:

Except it did happen, some scientist said x and some didn't. You may move the goal post and say something along the lines those scientist weren't qualified, but it still happened.

I think we’re agreeing. Some scientists didn’t know what they were talking about in the 70s. The vast majority did. And virtually all do now. There’s a crackpot or two out there, I’m sure. You are not a scientist. Therefore your opinion on the subject isn’t worth a whole lot. Except a whole lot of people with opinions like yours are making the problem worse.

Because I'm not a trained scientist, I'm not allowed to question the science? That seems really scientific.

Whenever I hear the word science I always think about luminiferous aether.

There was a scientific consensus that the continents didn't move just 100 years ago. This dude named Alfred Wegener developed the theory of continental drift. He was viewed as a crackpot. But 30 years after his death, his theory gained traction--and now it is the "consensus." Umm, ever hear of Plate Tectonics? Ironically, he dropped dead of a heart attack while trekking across Greenland in 1930, researching his theory. He was buried where he dropped. It is believed is body is now covered with over 1000 feet of ice. Shrinking ice cap, my eye.

Whenever I hear the y wrote:

Whenever I hear the word science I always think about luminiferous aether.

This, honestly, is just insanely ignorant and dangerous to even suggest. I work in Glacier National Park and have to entertain uneducated asssholes like you all day, but in reality, our glaciers are melting as a direct result of warming global temperatures. We have 26 named glaciers in Glacier National Park, and each and every one has recorded reduction in mass and volume for each of the last 11 years. Grow up, get your head out of the ground, and spread misinformation in your own part of the world - we're having enough trouble with it here.

Alfred Wegener wrote:

There was a scientific consensus that the continents didn't move just 100 years ago. This dude named Alfred Wegener developed the theory of continental drift. He was viewed as a crackpot. But 30 years after his death, his theory gained traction--and now it is the "consensus." Umm, ever hear of Plate Tectonics?

Ironically, he dropped dead of a heart attack while trekking across Greenland in 1930, researching his theory. He was buried where he dropped. It is believed is body is now covered with over 1000 feet of ice. Shrinking ice cap, my eye.

Whenever I hear the y wrote:

Whenever I hear the word science I always think about luminiferous aether.

Scientific understanding develops over time. In other words, truth on all matters was not simply handed down to us at the dawn of time.

Therefore it is impossible that human activities are changing the Earth's climate.

You don't know what you are talking about wrote:

Since October 1, the US has eperienced the coolest, wettest weather on record. And not surprisingly that has led to the fewest forest fires on record. Climate alarmists are (of course) reporting the exact opposite (

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=AhupiztoIrE

).

The US comprises about 2% of the Earth's surface. 2/3 of one year have passed since Oct 1.

So, 2% of the Earth's surface has been cold and wet for less than one year. Therefore the Earth is not warming.

Deal's reality yo wrote:

Deal’s green yo wrote:

It’s all about climate change now, not global warming. Do try to keep up.

Climate isn't changing anymore than it has in the last 1000, right on par to be exact. Do try to develop a brain and think for yourself Sheep Head.

Average surface temperature has increased by roughly 1degree Celsius over the last 100 years. If this is consistent with the last 1000 years ("right on par to be exact") then the Earth was 10 degrees Celsius cooler 1,000 years ago.

Except it wasn't. Not even close. Not even in the same galaxy.

Which makes you a liar. Or just ignorant. In other words, a prototypical denier.

Good job!

what are you talking about? wrote:

Deal’s green yo wrote:

It’s all about climate change now, not global warming. Do try to keep up.

Exactly, it is BS. People know it is BS, so the keep changing the names and definitions. On that hundred miler thread the other day, I said, "global warming". One person said that it is now called climate crisis. GTFO with that BS. All this climate hysteria is BS.

I like all the facts and logic that you bring to the discussion.

Good job!

Flounder wrote:

We are coming out of an ice age. It's gonna get warmer. The climate will change and humans would love believe that they control the planet, but they don't. I understood that back in the global freezing scare in the 1970s when they said that we were entering a new ice age. The fact is that there isn't enough information for global climate models to be accurate so they fudge the numbers to predict what they want to see.

Ignorant people are incapable of acknowledging their lack of knowledge.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

In other words, you are unable to distinguish between pop culture (70's "global freezing scare") and science.

Good job!

Very good science wrote:

Very good science, don't know/understand the science, but because x amount of scientist say x you believe x. If 99% of scientist were for eugenics, would you support it?

Ummm . . . Eugenics is a set of beliefs and practices aimed at "improving" the genetic pool of humans. It is not in any way a scientific theory and therefor not in in way comparable to the theory of human caused climate change.

So, either

A) you have no idea what eugenics is

B) you have no idea what science is

C) you have no idea how to make a valid argument or

D) you are just trolling

Pick one.

Timothy Foyle wrote:

You don't know what you are talking about wrote:

Since October 1, the US has eperienced the coolest, wettest weather on record. And not surprisingly that has led to the fewest forest fires on record. Climate alarmists are (of course) reporting the exact opposite (

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=AhupiztoIrE

).

The US comprises about 2% of the Earth's surface. 2/3 of one year have passed since Oct 1.

So, 2% of the Earth's surface has been cold and wet for less than one year. Therefore the Earth is not warming.

2% of surface area, 98% of world FREEDOM!

This freedom bird don't like flapping wet wings. decreases the payload.