riley stops wrote:
Impressed that Belarmine had two sophomores run 9:09. Pretty incredible duo right there.
Just saw they have 5 10th graders under 10 for 3200 and 45 kids under 5:00 in the 1600. Future sure looks bright at belarmine.
riley stops wrote:
Impressed that Belarmine had two sophomores run 9:09. Pretty incredible duo right there.
Just saw they have 5 10th graders under 10 for 3200 and 45 kids under 5:00 in the 1600. Future sure looks bright at belarmine.
FrenchDawg wrote:
Link to results
http://www.rtspt.com/events/cif/2019/Dude blew us all away when he ran 8:40.00 to win Arcadia, so this result may seem underwhelming to some, but if you check the splits you know what happened. This wasn’t a time trial or a kickers race, Young took it out in 1:07, 1:07 followed by the whole field, and then proceeded to run 1:04 1:04 1:07 1:04 1:06 1:04 to finish in 8:47.27, just over 6 seconds ahead of NXN champ Liam Anderson, who himself was 4 seconds clear of 3rd placer Matt Strangio.
Nico Young is the craziest talent we have seen out of California since German Fernandez, and I think we are in for a hell of a post season from this kid no matter what meet he ends up at.
This kid is dope. I like how he kind of fartlek’d between 67s and 64s for most of the race. Quite an impressive way to run 8:47. Hopefully he’ll be in the 8:30s next year if all goes well.
CalifRunner wrote:
Also recall that those who ran the 1600m had to run a fast Prelims on Friday (took 4:13 to qualify) then Finals on Saturday. So two hard 1600m efforts prior to the 3200m. Nico ran a fresh 3200m.
But it's not just this weekend. Athletes doubling in the 1600 had 4 weeks of qualifying just to get to the final, running 2 1600s and a 3200 each weekend.
For example, going back to May 3, when league trials start, Liam ran 6 1600s and 3 3200s before the state final while Nico only ran 3 3200s. And sure, Liam didn't need to go all out in every race, but he did have some formidable competitors at NCS like Dublins's Christopher Middle-Pearson.
Nico is a tremendous talent and I think he wins even if Liam is rested, but I'm curious if the qualifying process in other states is so brutal. It makes winning the double in CA even more impressive.
Calitrackfan wrote:
Athletes doubling in the 1600 had 4 weeks of qualifying just to get to the final, running 2 1600s and a 3200 each weekend. For example, going back to May 3, when league trials start, Liam ran 6 1600s and 3 3200s before the state final while Nico only ran 3 3200s. And sure, Liam didn't need to go all out in every race, but he did have some formidable competitors at NCS like Dublins's Christopher Middle-Pearson.
With all that practice, he should have been used to it then.
yeah Bellarmine has a great thing going right now. Do you have a link to those stats (45 under 5)?
Bell is a private school and a big draw from the Bay Area for all wealthy white people. When a fast 8th grader applies they are pretty much guaranteed entry. They also hold a summer camp (I.e. try out where fast runners are handed an application). Don’t get me wrong, good school, good coaching but not like it’s a local poor downtown school. They start with talent and unlimited resources.
Why was the California state meet a week early this year?
https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/EventRecords.aspx?SchoolID=1101popeye doyle wrote:
yeah Bellarmine has a great thing going right now. Do you have a link to those stats (45 under 5)?
Actually 7 10th graders under 10 wrote:
https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/EventRecords.aspx?SchoolID=1101popeye doyle wrote:
yeah Bellarmine has a great thing going right now. Do you have a link to those stats (45 under 5)?
They had the same last year and don't produce in XC.
On to the next topic now.
California is incredibly difficult and people in other states have no idea.
Week 1: League trials and finals.
Week 2: Sub sectional.
Week 3: Sectional trials and finals.
Week 4: State Meet trials and finals.
Many leagues in California are as talented as full states.
California does NOT have divisions at all either whereas many other states simply go ...
League or District - some have no trials.
State - some have no trials.
Some states have 4, 5, 6 divisions so a "state meet" champion is very watered down.
I can't find the start list to Brooks PR. When do they post this!? I noticed that NB Nationals and Brooks PR are the same weekend in June. I'm not sure if that's good or bad. Who will do what?????????
Young
Sprout
Anderson
Strangio
CalifRunner wrote:
California is incredibly difficult and people in other states have no idea.
Week 1: League trials and finals.
Week 2: Sub sectional.
Week 3: Sectional trials and finals.
Week 4: State Meet trials and finals.
Many leagues in California are as talented as full states.
California does NOT have divisions at all either whereas many other states simply go ...
League or District - some have no trials.
State - some have no trials.
Some states have 4, 5, 6 divisions so a "state meet" champion is very watered down.
Southern Section is by far the hardest. They have to run low 9min in the 3200m five weeks in a row. They have less rounds up in Northern California and less competition. It didn't seem to effect Nico Young, but it's very difficult if you're a 8:55 - 9:05 kid to stay on your game and run fast.
Liamatt Strangerson Young wrote:
Does anyone know if strangio was hurt in the middle of this season? He ran 8:47 leading the whole way early in the season but then had a disappointing Arcadia for him going 9:00 and seemed to not race for a bit and not push hard in a lot of meets. Obviously he wouldn't have gone hard in them all regardless. His double yesterday was insane
Matt was on the AlterG after Arcadia and getting physical therapy so hopefully his shin pain could calm back down this week.
Interesting read. He's been running since age 5 and also had a 10 inch growth spurt in the last 2-3 years which probably helps explain his rapid improvement in the past year.
Sprout is fitter than him this year, but Young might be the savvier racer.
V67 wrote:
Sprout is fitter than him this year, but Young might be the savvier racer.
Not sure why you would say that. I wouldn't say one is fitter then the other.
Unless your posting from Colorado.
CalifRunner wrote:
California is incredibly difficult and people in other states have no idea.
Week 1: League trials and finals.
Week 2: Sub sectional.
Week 3: Sectional trials and finals.
Week 4: State Meet trials and finals.
Many leagues in California are as talented as full states.
California does NOT have divisions at all either whereas many other states simply go ...
League or District - some have no trials.
State - some have no trials.
Some states have 4, 5, 6 divisions so a "state meet" champion is very watered down.
OK, to one of you fans of these meets, I'm wondering how long there has been a CIS State Meet. I think for XC it didn't exist when I was in HS (which was in 'Cali', incidentally) but there may have been a track one. I wasn't eligible for it, I don't think, so didn't follow it at all. It just seems as though State Meets weren't as common in my Era (graduated beginning of '81) as now.
Jeff Nelson ran around his times in HS comp and blasted his HS record in open competition, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Young could stick for a sub 8:40 if there was an opportunity.
This year was the 101st California State Meet. The California state cross country meet began in 1987.
Worthwhile reading:
http://www.cifstate.org/sports/track_and_field/2019_State_Track_and_Field_Program.pdf
Why was the state track meet held on the last weekend of May this year instead of the first weekend of June like it usually is?