Eliud Kipchoge / Ineos sub 2 marathon attempt October 13 in London Official Thread

Gwalkerruns wrote:

Of course it would be impressive but it will be put in the same category as wind aided or downhill course. Do not think I will watch. Guys jumping in and out is what we do in workouts with runners of different abilities, not races. The whole thing makes me believe he himself does not believe he can break two in a traditional race. At his age, this is a gamble as a decline will be coming soon. P.S. Got to believe running in a loop without having to ever pass or move to get liquids is probably worth 200-300 meters in and of itself.

Yeah, right. You'll be watching.

This sounds a bit dumb to me especially since it has been tried already.

What’s the difference between this and running on a treadmill? Just break the record on a treadmill...

The beauty of running is competition. Maybe better to change the rules so that pacers can join in the middle. But the key is to have competition.

90% of the beauty in Kipchoge’s achievements is the winning so many times consecutively against the best fields. Less the times as much impressive as they are.

I’m honestly disappointed

tarckstar wrote:

Just wondering aloud here wrote:

What’re the chances Nike doesn’t want to be involved with this one?

[quote]Lirunnerr wrote:

It was just announced, give Nike some time. I'm sure they will co-sponsor the event. Having fans will be key, and I think London is a great place to stage it.

I SO want Adidas to come up with some parallel thing and get it done before Kipchoge. Some sort of almost out-back course, with the first half flat, and the second half somewhat downhill, so it's nearly legal. If it's indeed so monumental to go under 2 any way/shape/form, why not have Adidas, UA, Skechers gather a few guys and give it a try?

Oh, dooooooo you?! Why? Because Skechers has done so much for athletics?

Isn't there a location with more reliable weather? Why not Valencia or something?

Itai wrote:

This sounds a bit dumb to me especially since it has been tried already.

What’s the difference between this and running on a treadmill? Just break the record on a treadmill...

The beauty of running is competition. Maybe better to change the rules so that pacers can join in the middle. But the key is to have competition.

90% of the beauty in Kipchoge’s achievements is the winning so many times consecutively against the best fields. Less the times as much impressive as they are.

I’m honestly disappointed

No matter what he does, most of the people here will be disappointed. He wins 10 majors, sets the wr, and has Olympic gold...people are upset that he doesn't run NYC or Boston. He runs 2:00:24 and all people here do are piss and moan that it's a sham and marketing ploy. Blah. I hope he's doped to freaking hilt, wears his pointy shoes, and drops a 1:59 bomb.

one of the greatest letsrun replies i have seen

Wanksta wrote:

Not so fast fast wrote:

Walmsley for the surprise win!!!

Will get the 25 mile record and then walks the remaining 2k.

one of the greatest letsrun replies i have seen

greatest wrote:

Wanksta wrote:

Will get the 25 mile record and then walks the remaining 2k.

one of the greatest letsrun replies i have seen

I think you've led a sheltered life.

macdaddy wrote:

Apple Crumble wrote:

Kipsang and Bekele should sign up for Revel and get a non-record eligible sub-2 hour marathon TOMORROW! What's the difference? First is first.

Terrible examples - Kipsang and Bekele are over the hill. Neither will be competitive in the marathon for the rest of time.

On a downhill they could do it.

Fine, get Getaneh Molla and do the same. Wouldn't it be awesome to steal Kipchoge's thunder? Why isn't this idea being taken seriously? It's on. This is like the race to break sub-4. Since Kipchoge is using pace cars and fresh pacers, why not do it downhill? Why wouldn't someone else want to do it first?

He won't crack it. How is he better than last time? 2:01:04.

If it is on a loop course what if groups of pacers became lapped and have these groups staggered to take 5km shifts then slow jog or walk to recover until their next turn

T-MAC100 wrote:

If it is on a loop course what if groups of pacers became lapped and have these groups staggered to take 5km shifts then slow jog or walk to recover until their next turn

Great, let's blend Gallowalking and the Sub 2 hour Marathon attempt. Bring in the masses.

In order to do that, "the masses" must be able to run 14:15 5Ks. And that must be easy enough for them to be 100% sure they won't fail miserably and be a hindrance rather than an advantage.

Sorry to break it to you LRC, but most of you won't be accepted as pacers for this, even if you pay for it.

Any word on who would be pacing Kipchoge?

Since this is a challenge, does that mean other Kenyans will be able to partake in the event?

Would be nice to see some other runners also attempt this feat, not just 1 person, although he might be the only person capable of running that time.

Iwondeer wrote:

Legit question here. Will anybody else compete against Eliud in the Ineos 1:59 Challenge? It would help him in a psychological way. Or are they too afraid to blow up big time and chase some easy money instead??

I imagine some of the new young marathoners (some have mentioned Geremew) would be interested. There is clearly some money to be had in this venture. I think I read that it is intended to be a solo effort, though.

By the way, exactly which marathoners do you believe are getting "easy money"? I think those who are making good money are probably working pretty darn hard.

Surprised Nike didn't have some contract clause preventing EK going elsewhere for the sub 2

I'm assuming they're not involved in this nonsense.

What about a large looping indoor course. Isn’t there an oversized indoor track somewhere? Or a custom surface in an airplane hanger - that type of thing.

As long as there’s no rules - he could do it on a treadmill.

On a level/legal IAAF course ..we can never see anything better than 2:00:58 ... unless this guy is on something on the level of 1999 and everyone looks the other way.

The problem with monza in the last attempt was the humidity. You won't get that in London in October.

Also the likely park they'll choose is Battersea. A 3k loop. Pancake flat as I've raced they're myself a few times. Will be going down to support if it's open to the public.