asdfadasfdas wrote:
killermike wrote:
I've included the Wiki link below. Surveys of professionals in the field have been done more recently, and little has changed on these points.
I guess you didn't read the several paragraphs of response and criticism?
I did. I'm not sure what makes you think I didn't.
I think Warren Buffett has said something like any points of an IQ beyond a 130 do not help
Warren Buffett wrote:
I think Warren Buffett has said something like any points of an IQ beyond a 130 do not help
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/12/heres-the-iq-score-warren-buffett-says-is-all-you-need-to-succeed.html
That sounds about right. Being super-duper smart is really just a feature of the person, like red hair. You are not any more capable of managing people, or even your own life vs a person who is just, "very smart". It does not increase the odds of success. There are some areas - mathematics - where it is a feature of the best practitioners. But in most of the world, it is a handicap.
My father said you weren't born with much of a brain, so you better start using your body.
I scored 147. I’m thinking of getting it tattooed on my body somewhere, but can’t decide where
I am not qualified to comment.
Truth b told wrote:
Truth b told wrote:
Logic is very real. IQ is simply a score on a test that can correlate with some other performances on other but not all tasks.
I am not so sure you can put logic all those people you claim to.
Out logic not put logic
I am sure because have doing it for 60 years. You are not sure because you have no idea who I am.
My whole point is, IQ scores are not perfect, but they do show something. Social studies people like to deconstruct IQ scores, but generally they don't fare well.
old math professor wrote:
Truth b told wrote:
Out logic not put logic
I am sure because have doing it for 60 years. You are not sure because you have no idea who I am.
My whole point is, IQ scores are not perfect, but they do show something. Social studies people like to deconstruct IQ scores, but generally they don't fare well.
I agree that IQ scores do show something. Most current research points to three major types of intellectual functioning that is not meaningfully represented by a single score.
Your over generalization about "social studies people" does not reflect your high level of intelligence.
SomeoneWhoKnows wrote:
There are things that should always be around:
MENSA
Vaping
Corvettes
Why? So we can easily identify the douchebags in our society.
I had to read through 4 damn pages just to get to this gem.
A certain bare minimum IQ is a necessary condition to enter a number of professions or found certain types of businesses. But there are many other factors impacting your success in life.
Never feel entitled to success on the basis of IQ; that's not the way the world works, nor should it work that way.
Grenio wrote:
SomeoneWhoKnows wrote:
There are things that should always be around:
MENSA
Vaping
Corvettes
Why? So we can easily identify the douchebags in our society.
I had to read through 4 damn pages just to get to this gem.
Don't get it. Why is Vaping or Corvettes (owning I presume) synonymous with being a douchebag?
Sounds like you’re hating on people who tested gifted at a young age. Why would teachers and school administrators be dishonest? I tested gifted, and went to a regular ass elementary school. They tried to have me skip a grade or so but my parents said no. I was socially shy/awkward. Instead, for English and math they would send me to a different classroom one grade up from where I stood. I was also sent to a special program once a year from three years. This program was traumatic for me. I never spoke there. Not once. So the kids thought I was either mute or couldn’t speak English. Many times high IQ people have difficulty adapting socially. At that time my parents didn’t understand any of it and didn’t do much to cultivate my growth which I’m fine with. Career wise, I can’t complain. I’ve graduated from one of the top universities in the country. I live an average life. My biggest financial hurdle is affording the best veterinary care for my two senior pets. Yet, know I could’ve been better....wealthier....farther up the elitist ladder than where I am today. I know my social ineptitude has hindered me as well as me desire to live a normal life. I have a lot of self doubt and can be a bit naive and emotionally undisciplined.
Questions like this are a bit silly imo because the question itself implies that smart people are expected or obligated to make exceptional contributions to society. They’re not. Freedom is a thing.
I never took an IQ test that I'm aware of but got an SAT of 1560 with little effort, and followed up with a similarly high GRE score, again with no study / test prep, etc.
I used to work in the space industry, and I feel like I made decent use of my brain during those years.
These days, I'm in management, and I feel like I'm in a mid-life crisis. My job isn't very technical, and I feel like my brain is rotting. I also can tell that at 39, I'm not as sharp as I used to be. I feel like I need a new job that's much more technical, but I'm also sick of being mismanaged. I've had some awesome managers, but at larger companies, there's so many layers of management, I feel like it's hard to be an effective individual contributor.
vertical j wrote:
These theeads are guaranteed to get many responses, generally from people who have an inflated semse of their intelligence.
Yup. That is what happened.
Truth b told wrote:
old math professor wrote:
I am sure because have doing it for 60 years. You are not sure because you have no idea who I am.
My whole point is, IQ scores are not perfect, but they do show something. Social studies people like to deconstruct IQ scores, but generally they don't fare well.
I agree that IQ scores do show something. Most current research points to three major types of intellectual functioning that is not meaningfully represented by a single score.
Your over generalization about "social studies people" does not reflect your high level of intelligence.
Just yanking your chain, son.
old math professor wrote:
Truth b told wrote:
I agree that IQ scores do show something. Most current research points to three major types of intellectual functioning that is not meaningfully represented by a single score.
Your over generalization about "social studies people" does not reflect your high level of intelligence.
Just yanking your chain, son.
What makes you think I'm male.
Truth b told wrote:
old math professor wrote:
Just yanking your chain, son.
What makes you think I'm male.
Just yanking your chain, again.
killermike wrote:
the golden retriever of letsrun wrote:
does anyone else have a high IQ as tested by MENSA or school and feel they have wasted it?
I have an IQ of 154 as tested by Stanford-Binet and supported by multiple standardized test equivalents (GMAT, SAT, etc.).
I don't think I've wasted it, but my life certainly hasn't fit the mold of what most people think a person with a 1-in-4,000 sort of IQ would have. I graduated from a mid-tier private college at 22 and lived like a college student who wasn't in college from 22-24. I racked up some debt in this time period, and I actually graduated owing my college about $8,000. This put a hold on my transcript and made grad school impossible. I had a 2.9 college GPA (1.7 in high school). At 25, I started taking philosophy courses at a decently respected university as a non-degree seeking student, so they didn't need my transcripts. My plan was to pay off the college debt and apply to a PhD program. I excelled in the philosophy program, and I actually ended up getting a paper published in a top tier journal and had several well-known philosophers willing to write recommendations for me. But the job market in the humanities was terrible, and largely still is, so I decided to pass on the PhD route. I still think I was "born to be" a philosopher, and I'm both quite good at it and enjoy it.
After that, I was at a loss for what to do. I actually helped manage an Abercrombie (I know) for a year or so because I was just in need of a job. I was even a shirtless greeter at a Hollister for a while (I am very good looking). Around that same time, I decided to become a doctor because it seemed like a good job. I took two years of medical school prereq courses, only to realize that I didn't actually want to be a doctor. I did very well on the MCAT, but I didn't even apply. I was 29 or so when I made this decision.
So, here I was on the cusp of my thirties, and I really hadn't done anything to put me in a great spot in life. I was happy, though. I was married, philosophy had changed much of my internal though life for the better, and I had a whopping 222 undergrad hours. I had a couple odd jobs for the next couple years, including being a tutor/director for a test prep company and an aspiring house flipper who only did a couple projects. That takes me to about age 31, and I'm 34 now.
If my story ended here, it would just be depressing. I have an IQ of 154, everyone who has ever known me has probably held the belief that I could absolutely do anything I wanted to, and yet I had probably never made more than $35,000 in a given year. Three years ago, I decided to actually try at something that I wanted to do. I started a tutoring business. I worked pretty normal hours rather than just sh*tting the day away. I built a website, filed for an LLC, wrote curriculum (It was an SAT/ACT prep business). At first, I did the tutoring. Then I hired a tutor. Then another. I now have twenty tutors and am in nine cities. I'm also in the process of expanding internationally. The work is interesting to me, and it honestly doesn't seem hard. I really do wonder why more people don't start businesses. There is a very, very good chance that I will sell my business for more than $10 million within the next ten years.
So, that's a long story, I know. But I think it illustrates a couple things that are surprising to a lot of people regarding high-IQ folks:
1. People with high IQs are often interested in a lot of things. Probably too many things. The world rewards specialization, and it's tough to gain specialized skills when you want to try everything out.
2. People with high IQs are often risk takers. This means they can succeed wildly or fail miserably. I once had a business school professor tell me that he thought I was smarter than he was, and he could see me either being the most successful person to ever come out of our business school....or he could see me being homeless. And he wasn't sure which was more likely.
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I do that know my IQ but the first book I read was Beuwolf when I was in 2nd grade. I hardly noticed it wasn't in English. It was a great read. Now I notice I'm talented at every activity I try. I play db around most people so I can fit in with normies and have fun.