Where abouts in Australia do you train from? Canberra?
Were you a runner? PRs? I remember you posted once about doing a session with Deek..
Where abouts in Australia do you train from? Canberra?
Were you a runner? PRs? I remember you posted once about doing a session with Deek..
Black Caviar wrote:
Where abouts in Australia do you train from? Canberra?
Were you a runner? PRs? I remember you posted once about doing a session with Deek..
Bingo! well done. Have a great training group in Canberra.
Also ran at George Mason with Cook, Abdi, and oh yes Jama Aden as the assistant coach as a 19 year old. Won a few state titles back in the day in VA.
PR's not so fast but sub 30 10k 45:30 15k 1:05 1/2 injuries cut my career short.
VCU indoor 5k record holder still and then you can always go to google about my what I have done. There is a TDF green jersey connection hahaha
Trying to offer insight for coaches but trolls always want to doubt those that have success.
Cheers
So essentially it is the glorious 90s training. Low mileage, hard workouts 2x times per week year around. Burnout after graduating college or before.
Perhaps the problem is that you approach these posts like a juvenile.
You provide very specific times about three athletes, sending people on an egg hunt to figure out who you are, if you are even a coach. Then you add that an athlete will be at Princeton in the fall. If you are going to provide such specific, searchable information why not just come out with, "Here's who I am, what my athletes ran, and I'm willing to offer advice or take questions."
Heck, you could probably do an interview with the owners of this site and get it out there in one shot.
Creating a guessing game on this site is not the way to go if you want a serious thread.
coahc wrote:
Skepticals wrote:
I’d like to know how much of this is improvement and how much is talent (ie what was their starting point) because that mileage is pretty low. LIKe all the threshold stuff and especially the hills. Building the power to run under 1:55 no doubt
Neither athlete came to me with a running background.
One of them came to me at the age of 10 to do triathlons and trained with me 1-2 x per week until 14 then a little more. Started just running at 15 and ran 4:21.
Other athlete came to me at 14 he has progressed from 2:12 his first season t2o the 1:53
We do hills all year round
Short 10% hills of 6-8 second for power
Longer300m hills for lactate tolerance
Threshold running efforts generally before harder running ie 2k threshold followed by 5x600 at 3k pace + 4x200 in 30 seconds
Other athletes in our group 15 year old boy 16:07 5k, 14 year old boy 4:40/10:05
Another female ran 2:11/4:52 a few years back
No running background is starting cross country your sophomore year after playing baseball and football your whole life. I’d hardly say starting at age 10 is no running background
Skepticals wrote:
coahc wrote:
Neither athlete came to me with a running background.
One of them came to me at the age of 10 to do triathlons and trained with me 1-2 x per week until 14 then a little more. Started just running at 15 and ran 4:21.
Other athlete came to me at 14 he has progressed from 2:12 his first season t2o the 1:53
We do hills all year round
Short 10% hills of 6-8 second for power
Longer300m hills for lactate tolerance
Threshold running efforts generally before harder running ie 2k threshold followed by 5x600 at 3k pace + 4x200 in 30 seconds
Other athletes in our group 15 year old boy 16:07 5k, 14 year old boy 4:40/10:05
Another female ran 2:11/4:52 a few years back
No running background is starting cross country your sophomore year after playing baseball and football your whole life. I’d hardly say starting at age 10 is no running background
Lol at a 10 year old having a background in anything.
He posts these threads because he can. Because the Brojos balk at any sort of accountability, this board affords anyone the opportunity to use any number of names any number of times, often in the same thread. They say they do this because it makes for livelier discussion, but even other dummies don't believe that. It's purely for clicks.
As a result, you see just this kind of mindless, if harmless, trolling. It wouldn't happen on a moderated board among generally decent folk, but here you're surrounded by some of the dumbest people in running, and it's fun, though cheap. to try to trick them with bullshit stories.
I was trying to figure out what US team had teammates like that - mystery solved . Australia.
Best I could think of in US was Bolles who have a 4:09 and a 4:11 pair of teammates. Also had a 4:38 girl, but she graduated last year. Loudoun Valley has 5 guys at 4:21 or faster.....
coahc wrote:
For the HS coaches out there looking for ideas on how two of my athletes achieved these times this year. If you are interested in learning what we did happy to share.
Also had a female run 17:37 on the track for 5k and a great young talented 9th grade female run 60.1 for 400m and 2:16 for 800m.
Thanks for posting this. I like your approach as you are not running your kids to the ground especially on the track. Mileage seem about adequate for their results... i know around here is anathema, but what can you do.... sigh.....
Deek (and later on Mona) all time heroes mate.....
Are you trying to say you came up with this training plan all by yourself?
There are probably like a dozen coaching minds in the history of running that truly matter. If your name isn’t Arthur Lydiard, you’re just someone that can read and follow directions and use good judgement.
Gaping anal aperture wrote:
He posts these threads because he can. Because the Brojos balk at any sort of accountability, this board affords anyone the opportunity to use any number of names any number of times, often in the same thread. They say they do this because it makes for livelier discussion, but even other dummies don't believe that. It's purely for clicks.
As a result, you see just this kind of mindless, if harmless, trolling. It wouldn't happen on a moderated board among generally decent folk, but here you're surrounded by some of the dumbest people in running, and it's fun, though cheap. to try to trick them with bullshit stories.
The worst is Tinman.
He posts with so many different nicknames that he forgets who he is and argues with himself.
Why have we ruled out the possibility this is tinman himself. Why are we assuming theyre teammates from the same team and not just two guys tinman has decided to train
Nice job! Now are you good now that I said that?
You don't look as weird as you sound when you make posts, Des.
Let me guess you’ve been coaching for 20 years and this is the first time you’ve had great runners so you think you’re training was the key to their success?
How close am I?
Where credit where credit is...wanted wrote:
Nice job! Now are you good now that I said that?
You don't look as weird as you sound when you make posts, Des.
Wow thanks!
I thought this site and message board was about running.
A sight where people could seek advice about how to improve their own performance or for coaches to gather knowledge about what others are doing or to share what has worked for them. Nothing that I do is rocket science!
You must coach for sure or used to be a runner right? Why else would you look me up and see that everything that I have posted is true.
I am about helping people and if I can help one coach then that is fantastic! You see I threw out a title that was attention grabbing and bingo I gotcha!
Good luck to you. I hope your running journey works out for you. I am enjoying mine! And yes the WXC in Aarhus was amazing!
Cheers!
coahc wrote:
dont coach in USA coach in another country.....
when princeton sends out their recruiting class for 2019/2020 you will see they have a foreigner.
Cheers
Plot twist for the crusty Americans!!
I ran in your district in HS, but was not quite at your level. It is cool to hear of others who have continued to run and pass that on to others. So many people I knew from running in HS and college have stopped.
I appreciate the idea of giving some training info here, but LR is full of anonymous people with the primary goal of tearing down anything anyone does as if that elevates them. You gave too much information about yourself to these trolls. They will only use it against you. It is much like the political climate of the US now: Ignore facts, scream opinions louder than your opponent. Hopefully Australia is better.
Good luck and keep it up.
Yeah, no one is tearing this guy down. I think some posters are just annoyed by him wasting people's time by dropping tiny hint after tiny hint of who he and his athletes are.
Not that he needs to tell anyone who he is, BUT, when you want to talk about how amazing your training is working, people will be skeptical unless they know it's real and if they should invest their time into looking into it.
For example, if some rando came on here and said "My training method just had two guy drop from 4:10 to 3:57 in the last 12 months!" People wouldn't believe it, more than likely, unless that person said who they were so it could be verified.
I think most people here are not only open but very welcoming to discuss training if it is legitimate. Which it turns out, this guy is.
Actually, the intensity is not overly hard. These athletes have room to progress on the strength side at least. And plenty of high volume HS runners disappear or fall back as collegiate.
Just to be clear, the current US records for 5000 and below are all held by moderate mileage athletes who trained quality. Records above 5000 all held by
athletes w/ 50 sec 400 capability.