World rankings- top 10 marathon runners

kurrious wrote:

You people sure put a lot of weight on Farah beating Rupp in Chicago yet you know damn well Rupp was injured. Why is that?

It doesn’t matter if Rupp was injured or hungover following a circumsion ceremony or what, my rankings are based on results.

Rupp would have likely ranked top-5 at the end of 2017. Off the top of my head, Kipchoge, G. Kirui, Kipsang, D. Wanjiru and/or Bekele would have joined him in the top-5—and only one of those men still ranks in the top-10. It’s a competitive world.

Format: marathon finishes within the past 18 months in chronological order separated by commas, with WMM finishes marked with an asterisk - number of top-10 ranked athletes they’ve beaten in the past 18 months/number of unranked athletes who’ve beaten them in that time - fastest time in the past 18 months.

I excluded Kipserem’s time at Abu Dhabi, but included his 1st place.

I tacked Rupp’s figures on at the end for all the homers who don’t understand why Farah ranks ahead of him.

1. Eliud Kipchoge - 1*, 1*, 1* - 5/0 - 2:01:39

2. Lawrence Cherono - 7*, 1, 1* - 2/3 - 2:04:06

3. Mosinet Geremew - 1, 2*, 2* - 4/0 - 2:02:55

4. Lelisa Desisa - 3*, DNF*, 1*, 2* - 1/2 - 2:05:59

5. Mule Wasihun - 6, 2, 3* - 2/4 - 2:03:16

6. Shura Kitata - 2*, 2*, 4* - 2/0 - 2:04:49

7. Getaneh Molla - 1 - 0/0 - 2:03:34

8. Marius Kipserem - 5, 1, 1 - 1/3 - 2:04:11

9. Mo Farah - 3*, 1*, 5* - 2/0 - 2:05:11

10. Birhanu Legese - 6, 10*, 1* - 0/11 - 2:04:15

Rupp - DNF*, 1, 5* - 1/2 - 2:06:07

NativeSon wrote:

Ladies.

This will be surprise many but the best lady is someone who is not in many people's radar.

Here are my top ten ladies as of now.

Top four in order

1. Ruth Chepng'etich

2. Brigid Kosgei

3. Vivian Cheruiyot

4. Worknesh Degefa

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The rest in no particular order

5. Reza Dereje

6. Mary Keitany

7. Gladys Cherono

8.

So far, it's not easy to list the top ten but the top four are more or less the way I listed them.

8. Lonah Salpeter

Who else is in this conversation? Meskerem Assefa, Ruti Aga, ashete bekere, gelete burka, yebrgual melese?

1. Brigid Kosgei

2. Ruth Chepng’etich

3. Vivian Cheruiyot

4. Gladys Cherono

5. Roza Dereje

6. Mary Keitany

7. Worknesh Degefa

8. Ruti Aga

9. Lonah Salpeter

10. Ashete Bekere

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T. Dibaba

S. Demise

E. Kiplagat

Rankerchief wrote:

1. Brigid Kosgei

2. Ruth Chepng’etich

3. Vivian Cheruiyot

4. Gladys Cherono

5. Roza Dereje

6. Mary Keitany

7. Worknesh Degefa

8. Ruti Aga

9. Lonah Salpeter

10. Ashete Bekere

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T. Dibaba

S. Demise

E. Kiplagat

i can live with that, you have done your research. I might add g. Burka and jemeli to make 15.

The interesting thing now is, who runs where in the fall? Chicago, Berlin, New York, or the world champs?

Rankerchief wrote:

1. Eliud Kipchoge

2. Lawrence Cherono

3. Mosinet Geremew

4. Lelisa Desisa

5. Mule Wasihun

6. Shura Kitata

7. Getaneh Molla

8. Marius Kipserem

9. Mo Farah

10. Birhanu Legese

as with the women, who is running where in the fall? Kipchoge is doing his 2 hr thing, but the others? World champs, Chicago, Berlin, New York, maybe even one in Valencia?

Aussiestatman wrote:

The interesting thing now is, who runs where in the fall? Chicago, Berlin, New York, or the world champs?

Ruth chosen by Kenya for the worlds

Rankerchief wrote:

1. Eliud Kipchoge

2. Lawrence Cherono

3. Mosinet Geremew

4. Lelisa Desisa

5. Mule Wasihun

6. Shura Kitata

7. Getaneh Molla

8. Marius Kipserem

9. Mo Farah

10. Birhanu Legese

none or these chosen by Kenya for the worlds

Aussiestatman wrote:

Rankerchief wrote:

1. Eliud Kipchoge

2. Lawrence Cherono

3. Mosinet Geremew

4. Lelisa Desisa

5. Mule Wasihun

6. Shura Kitata

7. Getaneh Molla

8. Marius Kipserem

9. Mo Farah

10. Birhanu Legese

none or these chosen by Kenya for the worlds

Speaking of whom, the Kenyan men's team is Geoffrey Kirui, Laban Korir, Paul Lonyangata, Amos Kipruto, and Ernest Ngeno.

Kirui is the defending World Champion and winner of 2017 Boston Marathon, and also famously overtaken by Yuki Kawauchi at 2018 Boston. Does he belong on top 10 based on the work of previous 2 years?

What about Kipruto? He was 2nd at Berlin and 3rd in Tokyo in 2018.

Amos Kipruto

sconehead wrote:

Aussiestatman wrote:

none or these chosen by Kenya for the worlds

Speaking of whom, the Kenyan men's team is Geoffrey Kirui, Laban Korir, Paul Lonyangata, Amos Kipruto, and Ernest Ngeno.

Kirui is the defending World Champion and winner of 2017 Boston Marathon, and also famously overtaken by Yuki Kawauchi at 2018 Boston. Does he belong on top 10 based on the work of previous 2 years?

What about Kipruto? He was 2nd at Berlin and 3rd in Tokyo in 2018.

Amos Kipruto

Kirui at 36 seems to me to be getting slower. I thought he was the second best marathoner at Boston but came 5th in almost 2.09. Neither this website nor their contributor, David Graham, chose him among their top 10 on performances last year. Amos Kipruto also didn’t make the 2018 top ten of either, but his result in Prague was a good addition to his two runs last year and I would rate him just outside these ten. Definitely both top 15, for me.

Aussiestatman wrote:

Rankerchief wrote:

1. Brigid Kosgei

2. Ruth Chepng’etich

3. Vivian Cheruiyot

4. Gladys Cherono

5. Roza Dereje

6. Mary Keitany

7. Worknesh Degefa

8. Ruti Aga

9. Lonah Salpeter

10. Ashete Bekere

—-

T. Dibaba

S. Demise

E. Kiplagat

i can live with that, you have done your research. I might add g. Burka and jemeli to make 15.

And Dibabe Kuma at 16.

Aussiestatman wrote:

Rankerchief wrote:

1. Eliud Kipchoge

2. Lawrence Cherono

3. Mosinet Geremew

4. Lelisa Desisa

5. Mule Wasihun

6. Shura Kitata

7. Getaneh Molla

8. Marius Kipserem

9. Mo Farah

10. Birhanu Legese

as with the women, who is running where in the fall? Kipchoge is doing his 2 hr thing, but the others? World champs, Chicago, Berlin, New York, maybe even one in Valencia?

Rupp and Farah in Chicago

Aussiestatman wrote:

Rankerchief wrote:

1. Brigid Kosgei

2. Ruth Chepng’etich

3. Vivian Cheruiyot

4. Gladys Cherono

5. Roza Dereje

6. Mary Keitany

7. Worknesh Degefa

8. Ruti Aga

9. Lonah Salpeter

10. Ashete Bekere

—-

T. Dibaba

S. Demise

E. Kiplagat

i can live with that, you have done your research. I might add g. Burka and jemeli to make 15.

Any of these running Chicago with Hasay?

Aussiestatman wrote:

Aussiestatman wrote:

as with the women, who is running where in the fall? Kipchoge is doing his 2 hr thing, but the others? World champs, Chicago, Berlin, New York, maybe even one in Valencia?

Rupp and Farah in Chicago

Beyond Farah & Kipchoge I only have pure speculation.

I might guess that Geremew returns to Chicago to try to do one better than last year—I’d like to see him target Kimetto’s CR and run away from Farah.

Cherono has won Amsterdam in CRs each of the last 2 years and could be swayed to defend, but after his first WMM win this spring, he might graduate to exclusively majors as long as he’s at this level. Without Kipchoge to worry about, Berlin seems a smart destination.

Desisa seems to run Boston/New York every year, and as the defending NYC champ I’d bet money he’s headed back there this fall.

I’m very curious to see what Getaneh Molla does later this year. I understand the skepticism of ranking him so highly based on one fast win in Dubai, but he looked strong and poised in that race and 2:03:34 is nothing to scoff at, even at the “Monaco of the marathon”—he ran faster than Geremew, Desisa, Gebrselassie etc. ran on that course. I’d like to see him validate his performance with another good result.

Thanks, who do you believe will represent Ethiopia in the world champs?

Thinking about 11-15. Who have you got?

Aussiestatman wrote:

Aussiestatman wrote:

Kirui at 36 seems to me to be getting slower. I thought he was the second best marathoner at Boston but came 5th in almost 2.09. Neither this website nor their contributor, David Graham, chose him among their top 10 on performances last year. Amos Kipruto also didn’t make the 2018 top ten of either, but his result in Prague was a good addition to his two runs last year and I would rate him just outside these ten. Definitely both top 15, for me.

Thinking about 11-15. Who have you got?

First thoughts, not final yet: Leule G., G.Kirui, Kipkemoi, rupp, and a. Kipruto. No particular order. Considering tola, kipsang, ekiru, and a few others.

Aussiestatman wrote:

Aussiestatman wrote:

Thinking about 11-15. Who have you got?

First thoughts, not final yet: Leule G., G.Kirui, Kipkemoi, rupp, and a. Kipruto. No particular order. Considering tola, kipsang, ekiru, and a few others.

Tola in, Leule G. out. more soon.