World rankings- top 10 marathon runners

John Wesley Harding wrote:

Valencia hasn’t changed my men’s top-10. An eye-opening performance from the winner, sure, but 2:03:51 only makes him #9 this season and the conditions were near perfect, so we’ll see how he fares going forward. Kaan Kigen Ozbilen has had a great year as well, with a runner-up finish in Rotterdam (2:05:27) before his 2:04:16 in Valencia.

As for the women, as fast and competitive as the Valencia race was I can’t squeeze the top-4 from that race into the top-10. Although Cheruiyot came 4th, I don’t think it’s fair to drop her from 5th off the list altogether given her 2nd place in London and her established status. She loses a couple spots, Dereje moves up several and Abreha & Dibaba miss the cut but would be locks for top-20.

1. Brigid Kosgei

2. Ruth Chepng’etich

3. Joyciline Jepkosgei

4. Ashete Bekere

5. Roza Dereje

6. Worknesh Degefa

7. Vivian Cheruiyot

8. Mary Keitany

9. Valary Jemeli

10. Ruti Aga

Abu Dhabi this Friday may be the last race of the year to affect either ranking, as I’ll be watching Marius Kipserem.

John Wesley Harding wrote:

John Wesley Harding wrote:

Sisay Lemma (2:03:36 for 3rd in Berlin) is first off the list after I waffled back and forth between he and Kitata. Lemma had the better fall marathon, but Kitata has a marginally superior resume over the last 2 years. Lemma could go on the list at #10 before the new year if Kipserem doesn’t perform well in Abu Dhabi.

Well...

Congrats, Sisay Lemma!

1. Eliud Kipchoge

2. Kenenisa Bekele

3. Lawrence Cherono

4. Lelisa Desisa

5. Mosinet Geremew

6. Birhanu Legese

7. Geoffrey Kamworor

8. Mule Wasihun

9. Shura Kitata

10. Sisay Lemma

Kipserem’s still worth consideration just for his CR at the fairly prestigious Rotterdam marathon, but loses out to the pair of 2:03:xx 3rd-places at majors, Wasihun & Lemma. All 3 of those guys really have just one marathon finish for the year (O.K., Lemma was 30th at Boston in 2:22, but that’s worth a DNF as far as this ranking’s concerned). With the number of athletes in consideration for the list based on one result this year, I still consider Kipserem necessary for a top-20.

The pacer/winner from Abu Dhabi, Reuben Kipyego, looked really impressive. He’s only 23 and this is his first year with results listed on the IAAF website. He ran 2:05:18 for 2nd in Buenos Aires on September 22. In Abu Dhabi, obviously he led the whole race, and ran 28:41 from 20-30k, ~2:01:00 pace. He could be one of the next big things.

John Wesley Harding wrote:

John Wesley Harding wrote:

Sisay Lemma (2:03:36 for 3rd in Berlin) is first off the list after I waffled back and forth between he and Kitata. Lemma had the better fall marathon, but Kitata has a marginally superior resume over the last 2 years. Lemma could go on the list at #10 before the new year if Kipserem doesn’t perform well in Abu Dhabi.

Well...

Congrats, Sisay Lemma!

1. Eliud Kipchoge

2. Kenenisa Bekele

3. Lawrence Cherono

4. Lelisa Desisa

5. Mosinet Geremew

6. Birhanu Legese

7. Geoffrey Kamworor

8. Mule Wasihun

9. Shura Kitata

10. Sisay Lemma

Kipserem’s still worth consideration just for his CR at the fairly prestigious Rotterdam marathon, but loses out to the pair of 2:03:xx 3rd-places at majors, Wasihun & Lemma. All 3 of those guys really have just one marathon finish for the year (O.K., Lemma was 30th at Boston in 2:22, but that’s worth a DNF as far as this ranking’s concerned). With the number of athletes in consideration for the list based on one result this year, I still consider Kipserem necessary for a top-20.

The pacer/winner from Abu Dhabi, Reuben Kipyego, looked really impressive. He’s only 23 and this is his first year with results listed on the IAAF website. He ran 2:05:18 for 2nd in Buenos Aires on September 22. In Abu Dhabi, obviously he led the whole race, and ran 28:41 from 20-30k, ~2:01:00 pace. He could be one of the next big things.

Aussiestatman wrote:

John Wesley Harding wrote:

Well...

Congrats, Sisay Lemma!

1. Eliud Kipchoge

2. Kenenisa Bekele

3. Lawrence Cherono

4. Lelisa Desisa

5. Mosinet Geremew

6. Birhanu Legese

7. Geoffrey Kamworor

8. Mule Wasihun

9. Shura Kitata

10. Sisay Lemma

Kipserem’s still worth consideration just for his CR at the fairly prestigious Rotterdam marathon, but loses out to the pair of 2:03:xx 3rd-places at majors, Wasihun & Lemma. All 3 of those guys really have just one marathon finish for the year (O.K., Lemma was 30th at Boston in 2:22, but that’s worth a DNF as far as this ranking’s concerned). With the number of athletes in consideration for the list based on one result this year, I still consider Kipserem necessary for a top-20.

The pacer/winner from Abu Dhabi, Reuben Kipyego, looked really impressive. He’s only 23 and this is his first year with results listed on the IAAF website. He ran 2:05:18 for 2nd in Buenos Aires on September 22. In Abu Dhabi, obviously he led the whole race, and ran 28:41 from 20-30k, ~2:01:00 pace. He could be one of the next big things.

Fair assessment, I have the same ten with minor changes to their order. Now, it all starts again: who runs Dubai? 47 days, if molla and negasa run 1-2 again, do they put any pressure on this ten? Does Titus Ekiru challenge in 2020?

Aussiestatman wrote:

John Wesley Harding wrote:

Well...

Congrats, Sisay Lemma!

1. Eliud Kipchoge

2. Kenenisa Bekele

3. Lawrence Cherono

4. Lelisa Desisa

5. Mosinet Geremew

6. Birhanu Legese

7. Geoffrey Kamworor

8. Mule Wasihun

9. Shura Kitata

10. Sisay Lemma

Kipserem’s still worth consideration just for his CR at the fairly prestigious Rotterdam marathon, but loses out to the pair of 2:03:xx 3rd-places at majors, Wasihun & Lemma. All 3 of those guys really have just one marathon finish for the year (O.K., Lemma was 30th at Boston in 2:22, but that’s worth a DNF as far as this ranking’s concerned). With the number of athletes in consideration for the list based on one result this year, I still consider Kipserem necessary for a top-20.

The pacer/winner from Abu Dhabi, Reuben Kipyego, looked really impressive. He’s only 23 and this is his first year with results listed on the IAAF website. He ran 2:05:18 for 2nd in Buenos Aires on September 22. In Abu Dhabi, obviously he led the whole race, and ran 28:41 from 20-30k, ~2:01:00 pace. He could be one of the next big things.

Mate. you are going to love this: just received by e-mail from the horses mouth; the consensus top 10 marathon rankings that AW will publish pre-Christmas. done by an expert panel. Couple of surprises: Mengistu at 7, molla at 8, no room for Kitata or Lemma. Women's: Jemeli at 6 [above Bekere], Burka at 9 [what?], and azmera abreha at 10. No keitany or jepkosgei [hello, new york is a Major!]

Aussiestatman wrote:

John Wesley Harding wrote:

Well...

Congrats, Sisay Lemma!

1. Eliud Kipchoge

2. Kenenisa Bekele

3. Lawrence Cherono

4. Lelisa Desisa

5. Mosinet Geremew

6. Birhanu Legese

7. Geoffrey Kamworor

8. Mule Wasihun

9. Shura Kitata

10. Sisay Lemma

Kipserem’s still worth consideration just for his CR at the fairly prestigious Rotterdam marathon, but loses out to the pair of 2:03:xx 3rd-places at majors, Wasihun & Lemma. All 3 of those guys really have just one marathon finish for the year (O.K., Lemma was 30th at Boston in 2:22, but that’s worth a DNF as far as this ranking’s concerned). With the number of athletes in consideration for the list based on one result this year, I still consider Kipserem necessary for a top-20.

The pacer/winner from Abu Dhabi, Reuben Kipyego, looked really impressive. He’s only 23 and this is his first year with results listed on the IAAF website. He ran 2:05:18 for 2nd in Buenos Aires on September 22. In Abu Dhabi, obviously he led the whole race, and ran 28:41 from 20-30k, ~2:01:00 pace. He could be one of the next big things.

Mate. you are going to love this: just received by e-mail from the horses mouth; the consensus top 10 marathon rankings that AW will publish pre-Christmas. done by an expert panel. Couple of surprises: Mengistu at 7, molla at 8, no room for Kitata or Lemma. Women's: Jemeli at 6 [above Bekere], Burka at 9 [what?], and azmera abreha at 10. No keitany or jepkosgei [hello, new york is a Major!]

Aussiestatman wrote:

John Wesley Harding wrote:

Well...

Congrats, Sisay Lemma!

1. Eliud Kipchoge

2. Kenenisa Bekele

3. Lawrence Cherono

4. Lelisa Desisa

5. Mosinet Geremew

6. Birhanu Legese

7. Geoffrey Kamworor

8. Mule Wasihun

9. Shura Kitata

10. Sisay Lemma

Kipserem’s still worth consideration just for his CR at the fairly prestigious Rotterdam marathon, but loses out to the pair of 2:03:xx 3rd-places at majors, Wasihun & Lemma. All 3 of those guys really have just one marathon finish for the year (O.K., Lemma was 30th at Boston in 2:22, but that’s worth a DNF as far as this ranking’s concerned). With the number of athletes in consideration for the list based on one result this year, I still consider Kipserem necessary for a top-20.

The pacer/winner from Abu Dhabi, Reuben Kipyego, looked really impressive. He’s only 23 and this is his first year with results listed on the IAAF website. He ran 2:05:18 for 2nd in Buenos Aires on September 22. In Abu Dhabi, obviously he led the whole race, and ran 28:41 from 20-30k, ~2:01:00 pace. He could be one of the next big things.

Mate. you are going to love this: just received by e-mail from the horses mouth; the consensus top 10 marathon rankings that AW will publish pre-Christmas. done by an expert panel. Couple of surprises: Mengistu at 7, molla at 8, no room for Kitata or Lemma. Women's: Jemeli at 6 [above Bekere], Burka at 9 [what?], and azmera abreha at 10. No keitany or jepkosgei [hello, new york is a Major!]

Aussiestatman wrote:

John Wesley Harding wrote:

Well...

Congrats, Sisay Lemma!

1. Eliud Kipchoge

2. Kenenisa Bekele

3. Lawrence Cherono

4. Lelisa Desisa

5. Mosinet Geremew

6. Birhanu Legese

7. Geoffrey Kamworor

8. Mule Wasihun

9. Shura Kitata

10. Sisay Lemma

Kipserem’s still worth consideration just for his CR at the fairly prestigious Rotterdam marathon, but loses out to the pair of 2:03:xx 3rd-places at majors, Wasihun & Lemma. All 3 of those guys really have just one marathon finish for the year (O.K., Lemma was 30th at Boston in 2:22, but that’s worth a DNF as far as this ranking’s concerned). With the number of athletes in consideration for the list based on one result this year, I still consider Kipserem necessary for a top-20.

The pacer/winner from Abu Dhabi, Reuben Kipyego, looked really impressive. He’s only 23 and this is his first year with results listed on the IAAF website. He ran 2:05:18 for 2nd in Buenos Aires on September 22. In Abu Dhabi, obviously he led the whole race, and ran 28:41 from 20-30k, ~2:01:00 pace. He could be one of the next big things.

Mate. you are going to love this: just received by e-mail from the horses mouth; the consensus top 10 marathon rankings that AW will publish pre-Christmas. done by an expert panel. Couple of surprises: Mengistu at 7, molla at 8, no room for Kitata or Lemma. Women's: Jemeli at 6 [above Bekere], Burka at 9 [what?], and azmera abreha at 10. No keitany or jepkosgei [hello, new york is a Major!]

Aussiestatman wrote:

John Wesley Harding wrote:

Well...

Congrats, Sisay Lemma!

1. Eliud Kipchoge

2. Kenenisa Bekele

3. Lawrence Cherono

4. Lelisa Desisa

5. Mosinet Geremew

6. Birhanu Legese

7. Geoffrey Kamworor

8. Mule Wasihun

9. Shura Kitata

10. Sisay Lemma

Kipserem’s still worth consideration just for his CR at the fairly prestigious Rotterdam marathon, but loses out to the pair of 2:03:xx 3rd-places at majors, Wasihun & Lemma. All 3 of those guys really have just one marathon finish for the year (O.K., Lemma was 30th at Boston in 2:22, but that’s worth a DNF as far as this ranking’s concerned). With the number of athletes in consideration for the list based on one result this year, I still consider Kipserem necessary for a top-20.

The pacer/winner from Abu Dhabi, Reuben Kipyego, looked really impressive. He’s only 23 and this is his first year with results listed on the IAAF website. He ran 2:05:18 for 2nd in Buenos Aires on September 22. In Abu Dhabi, obviously he led the whole race, and ran 28:41 from 20-30k, ~2:01:00 pace. He could be one of the next big things.

Mate. you are going to love this: just received by e-mail from the horses mouth; the consensus top 10 marathon rankings that AW will publish pre-Christmas. done by an expert panel. Couple of surprises: Mengistu at 7, molla at 8, no room for Kitata or Lemma. Women's: Jemeli at 6 [above Bekere], Burka at 9 [what?], and azmera abreha at 10. No keitany or jepkosgei [hello, new york is a Major!]

Aussiestatman wrote:

Aussiestatman wrote:

Mate. you are going to love this: just received by e-mail from the horses mouth; the consensus top 10 marathon rankings that AW will publish pre-Christmas. done by an expert panel. Couple of surprises: Mengistu at 7, molla at 8, no room for Kitata or Lemma. Women's: Jemeli at 6 [above Bekere], Burka at 9 [what?], and azmera abreha at 10. No keitany or jepkosgei [hello, new york is a Major!]

I write fairly often to the editor of “Athletics 2019: The International Track and Field Annual” and this time I shared my top tens, expressing that the men’s were pretty much an open and shut case. He wrote back saying that the experts that he concurred with had a few different thoughts. I just don’t get mengistu at 7. Never really considered him in the ten, certainly not in place of Kitata. Third in Chicago slower than Kitata’s fourth in London, just for starters. Can’t surely give more credence to three quality finishes over two? His second in Paris: who did he beat? Lonyangata and Gachaga? And the winner who beat him was Abrha Milaw, now ranked 39 and yet to go sub 2.07.

Aussiestatman wrote:

John Wesley Harding wrote:

Women:

1. Brigid Kosgei

2. Ruth Chepng’etich

3. Worknesh Degefa

4. Vivian Cheruiyot

5. Ashete Bekere

6. Roza Dereje

7. Mary Keitany

8. Ruti Aga

9. Gladys Cherono

10. Rose Chelimo

Honorable mention: Mare Dibaba, Gelete Burka, Lonah Salpeter, Abanel Yeshaneh, Helalia Johannes

Agree on the top 9 pretty much the same order, then:

Jemeli

Salpeter

R.chelimo

Johannes

Mare dibaba

Yeshaneh

T.girma

A.gebru

Azimeraw

Burka

E.kiplagat

These 20 cover the top 17 quickest all year plus 2,3, and 4 from the w. Champs

I still think y.melese and a.abreha might return to shanghai this Sunday and crash this 20 with a sub 2.21. Also been waiting for birhane since c/Hagen

Aussiestatman wrote:

Aussiestatman wrote:

Agree on the top 9 pretty much the same order, then:

Jemeli

Salpeter

R.chelimo

Johannes

Mare dibaba

Yeshaneh

T.girma

A.gebru

Azimeraw

Burka

E.kiplagat

These 20 cover the top 17 quickest all year plus 2,3, and 4 from the w. Champs

I still think y.melese and a.abreha might return to shanghai this Sunday and crash this 20 with a sub 2.21. Also been waiting for birhane since c/Hagen

I kept the 20 in order for my year end thread but wrote a re-do at halfway just after the top 9 in Valencia were the fastest 9 ever in one marathon. I concluded then that the top four from Valencia changed things. If I knew previous to that day just how fast those four would run I would have put Azmera Abreha in at ten, Jemeli just outside the ten, birhane into the 20 with one dropping out. The one to drop out would have to be Azmera Gebru because she had gone head to head with both Burka in Paris and Girma in Amsterdam and finished next after both. I still wanted to include the fastest debutant and the fourth at worlds. In my opinion, each of those two performances outweigh the combined two quick times from Gebru, but I concede she is unlucky.

Aussiestatman wrote:

Aussiestatman wrote:

I kept the 20 in order for my year end thread but wrote a re-do at halfway just after the top 9 in Valencia were the fastest 9 ever in one marathon. I concluded then that the top four from Valencia changed things. If I knew previous to that day just how fast those four would run I would have put Azmera Abreha in at ten, Jemeli just outside the ten, birhane into the 20 with one dropping out. The one to drop out would have to be Azmera Gebru because she had gone head to head with both Burka in Paris and Girma in Amsterdam and finished next after both. I still wanted to include the fastest debutant and the fourth at worlds. In my opinion, each of those two performances outweigh the combined two quick times from Gebru, but I concede she is unlucky.

Then just outside the 20 would come fifth, sixth, and seventh in Valencia because sub 2.21 was the marker I wanted to use as a cut-off.