Chances of Mo Farah beating Kipchoge in London?

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5 years ago 04/05/2019 1:34pm EDT

re: andthen

andthen wrote:
The only other objective yardstick would be times run, eh? Medals/championships aren’t objective in your world?

Certainly not if both athletes weren't in the same races where the medals were won. That's a bit like comparing tomatoes and watermelons. They are both fruits, but entirely different. Your views aren't going to change, and neither will mine. Let's just see what transpires in London- I hope it will be a good duel, though I'd wager that Kipchoge will likely beat Farah again on his home pitch.

5 years ago 04/05/2019 2:14pm EDT

re: Oh Please

Oh Please wrote:
You guys are nuts. Please don't suggest somehow that Mottram had a better career or was "cleaner" than Farah.
You complain about doping, you complain that Farah never ran "super fast", just sit and kick races, yet surely you don't believe a 10000WC race where the second half was run in 12:57 was clean, right? Or a 1500WC won in 3:27. On and on.
If winning is what counts, then Farah is the best TRACK distance runner there is. MAYBE Geb could have done similar had he not had 10000 heats to run.
When it comes to times, his PR in 5000 was at the very beginning of his dominance. He schooled those guys that ran 12:40s multiple times. He did run 801 2 mile (or maybe it was 803?), still a world best. In the span of a year he ran 3:28 and ~59:20 half marathon, and in his first serious marathon he went out in 61:00 and still ran a 206.
If anyone is suspicious, I'd argue its a guy that only races twice a year and runs sub 204 or better every time. Year after year after year. It's so unbelievable I can't believe EK has the reputation he does here. I guess because he's humble.

Yes, thank you!

I've been saying for years that Mo Farah is the best track runner there is based on winning alone. (What the hell else matters?)

What you guys need to realize, is that you're not being objective. You like Kipchoge becasue he's humble and nice. But he's so suspicious. Salazar and his L-carnitine stuff is boyscouts compared to the stuff happening in east africa..

I don't like Farah. Never cheered for him and generally want him to lose because his personality and attitude, but he's been the best, the winningest track runner there's ever been. That seems impossible to deny when you count his gold medals and races against the best in this generation

you don't have to like him to see the writing on the wall

5 years ago 04/05/2019 2:21pm EDT

re: Disingenuous

Disingenuous wrote:
andthen wrote:
The only other objective yardstick would be times run, eh? Medals/championships aren’t objective in your world?
Certainly not if both athletes weren't in the same races where the medals were won. That's a bit like comparing tomatoes and watermelons. They are both fruits, but entirely different. Your views aren't going to change, and neither will mine. Let's just see what transpires in London- I hope it will be a good duel, though I'd wager that Kipchoge will likely beat Farah again on his home pitch.

I'll save you the suspense - Kipchoge will beat Farah in the London marathon. He's the better marathoner, and Mo is the better track runner. But you're right, it is pointless to go on arguing now that I see that you don't think comparing medals and championship results during the same era as being relevant.

5 years ago 04/05/2019 4:44pm EDT

re: andthen

Exactly. These clowns are arguing about a 205 guy beating a 201 (and almost a 200) guy. It's just not going to happen.

5 years ago 04/05/2019 10:35pm EDT

re: AP5000

Classic thread. Some fanboy arguing that times aren't important in running (maybe he has running confused with gymnastics), and that Kipchoge (the 2:01 guy with the most unbelievable marathon win record ever seen) is more than likely to lose to a guy who hasn't even gotten into the 2:03s *or* 2:04s.

5 years ago 04/05/2019 10:37pm EDT

re: gotitall

The men's race is just not interesting--what about the women though? There are some crazy fast chicks, and good lord but they're not afraid to go out way too fast at London.

5 years ago 04/06/2019 5:07pm EDT

re: dfa

1. Eluid Kipchoge 2:00:13

2. Bob Kempainen 2:02:47

3. German Silva 2:03:11

4. Mo Farah 2:04:55

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