[/quote]You moved the goal posts quite a bit.
Are there successful people from both schools? Yes. Are there as much as Stanford, MIT, etc? No.
Both schools are in the top 100 in the country? Yes. Wow! 100! Amazing. Every kid should aspire to go to a peer school of Rutgers, Southern Methodist, and UConn. What you're defining as a "delusional" ranking is backed up by just about every service that ranks these things, not to mention the reality of hiring practices and entry-level salaries.
You're doing this kid a disservice by white-washing how average these schools really are. Can he succeed and thrive with a degree from there? Sure. It's unequivocally, immeasurably harder though. All of the effort you're putting into making people with average degrees from average schools feel good about themselves is noble, but wrong.
Not that you'd believe me, but undergrad MIT and grad Stanford. Work in tech, Bay Area, FAANG. I can count on one-hand how many people in every new employee cohort we bring in from something other than the elite schools. You can complain all you want about how it's fair or unfair, but it's the truth. And half of them are going to be millionaires before they're 30 in ten years simply due to the salaries and the RSUs.[/quote]
If your idea of elite is working in the Bay Area and being a millionaire by 30, then maybe you need to move your goalposts. I would argue that your idea of success and what is elite is pretty unrealistic for most people. Scoff at top 100 all you want, but I'd say that's damn good by most people's standards.
We clearly aren't going to agree but my intention isn't to make anyone feel good about anything. I just think you are contributing to a larger problem in this country with your sh it attitude and narrow view of what it means to be successful.