nike pros are learning to take off the 5% prototypes and hide them real fast

zoomzoomzoom wrote:

tarckstar wrote:

The black shoe is trying to address the massive pronation/torque issue the 4% has. Probably 90 percent of those I see wearing it appear to be trying to touch their inner ankle bones to the ground.

that kind of interesting insight is why I put up with the troll brigade

Jordan Hasay has been using some kind of modification to the midfoot on the sole, you can clearly see the cutout in this photo

https://imgur.com/a/0ZTemdk

Not trolls. It is legitimately weird that 100% of your posts are about shoes and looking for shoe pics.

Bra-ket wrote:

I saw Nike Employees (not athletes) wearing the same thing last summer at a running event in Portland.

+1

I saw a bunch of guys who run for BTC Elite who work for Nike run the Eugene Half in 2018. They all seemed to be wearing a prototype flat that was all black. Perks of working for the company = getting to test the upgrade to the 4%'s.

We're going to see the same thing happen at the 2020 Trials where we get articles months later about Nike athletes making the top-3 wearing shoes that aren't available to the public or maybe even other Nike sponsored athletes.

YepYepYep wrote:

We're going to see the same thing happen at the 2020 Trials where we get articles months later about Nike athletes making the top-3 wearing shoes that aren't available to the public or maybe even other Nike sponsored athletes.

what's interesting is that at the 2016 trials, only Nike pros (1st Cragg and 3rd Flanagan) had the very very early version of the vaporflys, I don't believe Kara Goucher had access to them and she had to settle for fourth (but also Desi taking 2nd in regular shoes which says something)

in 2020 however the playing field might be a little more level, while not 4-5% shoes, at least Brooks and Hoka athletes will have maybe 2-3% shoes

but I hope asics gets something to Sara Hall and also Molly Huddle is going to have to accept the prototypes from Saucony (that Jared Ward used) if it's going to be remotely fair

just imagine what the age-graded tables are going to look like for the 2020 update compared to 2015 and 2010, all the masters runners are suddenly going to be 2-4% slower unless they adopt carbon springs

and what is going to happen to BQ and OTQ times after 2020

the longer USATF waits to do something, the harder and weirder it's going to get

Kara was wearing Skechers at the trials, I believe.

YepYepYep wrote:

Bra-ket wrote:

I saw Nike Employees (not athletes) wearing the same thing last summer at a running event in Portland.

+1

I saw a bunch of guys who run for BTC Elite who work for Nike run the Eugene Half in 2018. They all seemed to be wearing a prototype flat that was all black. Perks of working for the company = getting to test the upgrade to the 4%'s.

We're going to see the same thing happen at the 2020 Trials where we get articles months later about Nike athletes making the top-3 wearing shoes that aren't available to the public or maybe even other Nike sponsored athletes.

Shoes aside, sounds like whoever wants to make the team better be a strong hill runner.

Is Adidas going to get in the game? Doesn't seem like their sub2 shoes made any splash.

tarckstar wrote:

Kara was wearing Skechers at the trials, I believe.

wearing skechers in early 2016 had to be a challenge, much better now though

do we know what Des was wearing? I think she has been with Brooks for a decade, so probably that

YepYepYep wrote:

Bra-ket wrote:

I saw Nike Employees (not athletes) wearing the same thing last summer at a running event in Portland.

+1

I saw a bunch of guys who run for BTC Elite who work for Nike run the Eugene Half in 2018. They all seemed to be wearing a prototype flat that was all black. Perks of working for the company = getting to test the upgrade to the 4%'s.

We're going to see the same thing happen at the 2020 Trials where we get articles months later about Nike athletes making the top-3 wearing shoes that aren't available to the public or maybe even other Nike sponsored athletes.

i saw them too and didn't care. the 4%/5% is a NOTHING BURGER.

...an airbag squeezed between a carbon fiber plane and an outer sole. I nicknamed it the 10%.

Sounds like SOMEBODY had to ride in coach...

Meb wore Sketchers at the 2016 Rio Olympic Marathon.

In the meanwhile the fashion world loves these:

https://www.balenciaga.com/us/track-shoes_cod11583881gl.html#/us/all/shoes

At the time, Luke Peuskedra was a nike athlete. Not sure if they didn’t offer or he didn’t like them, but I always thought if he had worn them he would have made the team. He wore the thinnest possible soles that day and for a guy his size, that had to kill his legs late in the race. Dathan had them that day, but he had other issues and dropped out. Galen of course cruised with them too.

YepYepYep wrote:

Bra-ket wrote:

I saw Nike Employees (not athletes) wearing the same thing last summer at a running event in Portland.

+1

I saw a bunch of guys who run for BTC Elite who work for Nike run the Eugene Half in 2018. They all seemed to be wearing a prototype flat that was all black. Perks of working for the company = getting to test the upgrade to the 4%'s.

We're going to see the same thing happen at the 2020 Trials where we get articles months later about Nike athletes making the top-3 wearing shoes that aren't available to the public or maybe even other Nike sponsored athletes.

Those black shoes have nothing to do with the 4/5%. Totally different concept. Totally different model.

Yeah, on running warehouse if nothing else. I tried it on tho and it does really noticably more springy.

zoomzoomzoom wrote:

somehow missed this wide shot with the full lineup, fascinating

https://imgur.com/a/txW5ABs

What is Cragg wearing?

my2c wrote:

Is Adidas going to get in the game? Doesn't seem like their sub2 shoes made any splash.

I was thinking the other day if Adidas just replaced the parts of sole the Takumi that use regular eva foam with the floatride foam from Reebok (which they own) they might get another 1% out of it, then bring back the "proplate" into production for another 1% (but make it optional)

but ironically Adidas started all this with the "proplate" in 2006, set some world records and then in 2007 IAAF, said "um no, no technical aids like springs"

So Adidas killed production. Then Oscar Pitorious sued IAAF, who then weaked the rule and Nike started looking at how they could take back the marathon WR, hence vaporfly project, moonshot project, and decided if they just flooded the market with carbon springs, people would adopt them so quickly that it would drown out any protest. Apparently they were right. Adidas should have done the same and history would be different.

Hrjgjbdhbdyu wrote:

zoomzoomzoom wrote:

somehow missed this wide shot with the full lineup, fascinating

https://imgur.com/a/txW5ABs

What is Cragg wearing?

The original VF 4% with the mesh upper.

Hrjgjbdhbdyu wrote:

zoomzoomzoom wrote:

somehow missed this wide shot with the full lineup, fascinating

https://imgur.com/a/txW5ABs

What is Cragg wearing?

5% prototype.