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SalaCzar.Super.Fan.Club.NOP.EZ.com

1 year ago 03/02/2019 1:42am CST
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population replacement wrote:

Sprichst du deutsch? wrote:

rojo wrote:

Anyone besides me thinks it's kind of weird that the EUropeans are all into the European championships when they are trying to erase their own countries identities with on big European country.

I mean GBR is getting so much crap for Brexit. In my mind, why not just get rid of all countries if you are going to give them crap?

No. It's just you that thinks this. Maybe look up what the EU is and what it's there to achieve before you comment again. Aside from embarrassing yourself, you're also being moderately offensive.

What I do think is weird is how much you struggle with English. If you need some tutoring, any of us Germans would be happy to help you. Even the French could probably give you some English lessons (who, btw, are not the same country as Germany, nor ever will be).

Are there still Germans in Germany? Must be somewhere I can go to experience European culture.

That is an interesting question.

Here is another interesting question for your brain:

1) Why does Coach Alberto always look like he has to take a sh*t when he is running in a race, and acts like a total sh*thead at the same time???

2) For example (e.g):

3) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_SkBU09maA

4) Answer:

5) No one knows the answer to this interesting question.

6) Oh well.
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1 year ago 03/02/2019 2:03am CST
re: SalaCzar.Super.Fan.Club.NOP.EZ.com

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SalaCzar.Super.Fan.Club.NOP.EZ.com wrote:

population replacement wrote:

Sprichst du deutsch? wrote:

rojo wrote:

Anyone besides me thinks it's kind of weird that the EUropeans are all into the European championships when they are trying to erase their own countries identities with on big European country.

I mean GBR is getting so much crap for Brexit. In my mind, why not just get rid of all countries if you are going to give them crap?

No. It's just you that thinks this. Maybe look up what the EU is and what it's there to achieve before you comment again. Aside from embarrassing yourself, you're also being moderately offensive.

What I do think is weird is how much you struggle with English. If you need some tutoring, any of us Germans would be happy to help you. Even the French could probably give you some English lessons (who, btw, are not the same country as Germany, nor ever will be).

Are there still Germans in Germany? Must be somewhere I can go to experience European culture.

That is an interesting question.

Here is another interesting question for your brain:

1) Why does Coach Alberto always look like he has to take a sh*t when he is running in a race, and acts like a total sh*thead at the same time???

2) For example (e.g):

3) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_SkBU09maA

4) Answer:

5) No one knows the answer to this interesting question.

6) Oh well.

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1 year ago 03/02/2019 2:04am CST
re: TK Maxx

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TK Maxx wrote:

Coevett wrote:
But at the same time the EU allows Germany to control Europe without committing another literal genocide (but a cultural genocide of all national identities).

Well they managed to destroy Greece without a single tank rolling into Athens this time didn't they?

Or are we all just pretending that didn't happen?

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Klinklehoffen for the win

1 year ago 03/02/2019 2:20am CST
re: calf and a half

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calf and a half wrote:
Klinklehoffen.

Please, can we make that one stick. It's so much better than bland Koko
Just Say No

1 year ago 03/02/2019 4:06am CST
re: Platonic

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Platonic wrote:

The UK would be represented but it makes sense, given the political situation in Northern Ireland, for an allowance to be made for NI citizens who want to represent Ireland so Britain is used as the default UK team.

But it's really the UK team. So the home nation was indeed represented.

No. Scotland is the home country. That country is within a political union which is the UK.

You will see Scotland vests at the Commonwealth games were all the UK nations compete individually but not here were only the union is represented.
Platonic

1 year ago 03/02/2019 5:54am CST
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The UK is a sovereign country.

This championship is in the UK. There's nothing complicated about this.

In fact there was even a vote in 2014 about whether Scotland would become an independent country and the Scottish people decided against it. So it turns out the home country is represented as we can see from the Briton Laura Muir winning yesterday.

Platonic

1 year ago 03/02/2019 5:56am CST
re: Here is another imbecile

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Here is another imbecile wrote:

Platonic wrote:

trollism wrote:

Coevett wrote:

rojo wrote:

It's not an ignorant comment. People are proud of their identities. For thousands of years, people put themselves in little clans/tribes etc. Now that the world is global, a lot of that is being lost. Why do you think sports are so freaking popular?

You root for your local town.

Some of the top Eurocrats have been floating the idea of a EU soccer team at the World Cup and even one EU Olympic team.

Not long after the Brexit vote, an EU parliamentarian posted on her Twitter an Olympic 2016 medal table with the EU at the top but without GB ( to show how small and insignificant we were compared to the EU). A British MP then tweeted an Olympic medal table with all the GB and Commonwealth medals together as one team - which would be more than the USA and the EU combined.

Jurgen the German hates his identity because of his nation's genocidal history. But at the same time the EU allows Germany to control Europe without committing another literal genocide (but a cultural genocide of all national identities).

Literally nobody is floating that idea.

Also, the whole 'They want to make a European super state' is just some the pro-Brexit nonsense that helped convince idiots to vote for brexit.

The EU discussion revolves around supranationalism vs intergovernmentalism. The EU claims to be an intergovernmental organisation.

This is not true and it actually uses both supranational and intergovernmental structures in its organisation.

It is absolutely true that, among the senior ranks of the EU hierarchy, there are many people looking to the long-term establishment of the superstate. There are very few to no people who are looking to repatriate powers to the nation states.

The EU and ever closer union absolutely are about the creation of a superstate. Anyone who does not realise this can be safely dismissed.

Right...where to start with this nonsense.

Every single European country is fiercely independent and protective of their culture and identity. Most states tolerate the EU as they see the benefits in free trade agreements and most members get a net financial benefit from being a member. Stop talking bollocks.

You didn't start with the comments on intergovernmentalism vs supranationalism at all. You just made some vague and irrelevant statements about culture and identity. And if the EU was just about trade the few people would have an issue with it. It would be ASEAN or Mercosur and would be relatively unimportant to the European continent.
Just Say No

1 year ago 03/02/2019 7:11am CST
re: Platonic

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Platonic wrote:

The UK is a sovereign country.

This championship is in the UK. There's nothing complicated about this.

In fact there was even a vote in 2014 about whether Scotland would become an independent country and the Scottish people decided against it. So it turns out the home country is represented as we can see from the Briton Laura Muir winning yesterday.

🤣 The UK is a sovereign State not a country. Scotland is a country within that State - as you even pointed out yourself! Therefore the home nation / country of Scotland is not represented.

It's really not that difficult to understand.
calf and a half

1 year ago 03/02/2019 7:59am CST
re: Leave the brexit chat behind

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Leave the brexit chat behind wrote:

Apologies if sound like a fan boy - but been a while since Scotland has had a T&F Star like this - and she’s down to earth and nice at the same time.

+1. It doesn't hurt that she's fanciable as well, and the eye fluttering is oddly endearing :-)
Bee-kind

1 year ago 03/02/2019 8:22am CST
re: Just Say No

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Just Say No wrote:

🤣 The UK is a sovereign State not a country.

A sovereign state is a sovereign country and there are states/countries with internal states and states/countries with internal countries. A state/country is any arbitrarily defined political region. It’s nonsense, as are any rules you’re trying to pull out of your behind.

Just Say No wrote:

Scotland is a country within that State - as you even pointed out yourself! Therefore the home nation / country of Scotland is not represented.

Scotland is not sovereign. This is the European Championships, so Scotland isn’t recognized and for all intents and purposes doesn’t exist. Something that doesn’t exist receives no representation.

Just Say No wrote:

It's really not that difficult to understand.

Apparently it is?
Just Say Yes

1 year ago 03/02/2019 8:37am CST
re: Bee-kind

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Bee-kind wrote:

A state/country is any arbitrarily defined political region. It’s nonsense, as are any rules you’re trying to pull out of your behind.

Hilarious. A state is but not a country - you my friend have ironically pulled that straight out of your own pompous behind.

Bee-kind wrote:

Just Say No wrote:
It's really not that difficult to understand.

Apparently it is?

Indeed. So it would seem. Although perhaps one does understand but has a little Englander brexiteering mindset and would like to pretend otherwise...
cotton shirt

1 year ago 03/02/2019 8:39am CST
re: Platonic

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Platonic said: The UK is a sovereign country.

it has nothing to do with whether or not the UK is a sovereign country and even less to do with anything the people vote for.

Scotland is not affiliated to European Athletics; Great Britain is. therefore, Scottish athletes cannot compete in European Championships while British athletes can.

similarly, in the Olympic Games, Great Britain is affiliated to the International Olympic Committe, has its own Olympic Committee and therefore gets to compete in the Olympic Games. Scotland is not affiliated, does not have an Olympic Committee and therefore does not compete.

as you said, there is nothing complicated about this.

cheers.

yg676

1 year ago 03/02/2019 8:48am CST
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Here is another imbecile wrote:

Platonic wrote:

trollism wrote:

Coevett wrote:

rojo wrote:

It's not an ignorant comment. People are proud of their identities. For thousands of years, people put themselves in little clans/tribes etc. Now that the world is global, a lot of that is being lost. Why do you think sports are so freaking popular?

You root for your local town.

Some of the top Eurocrats have been floating the idea of a EU soccer team at the World Cup and even one EU Olympic team.

Not long after the Brexit vote, an EU parliamentarian posted on her Twitter an Olympic 2016 medal table with the EU at the top but without GB ( to show how small and insignificant we were compared to the EU). A British MP then tweeted an Olympic medal table with all the GB and Commonwealth medals together as one team - which would be more than the USA and the EU combined.

Jurgen the German hates his identity because of his nation's genocidal history. But at the same time the EU allows Germany to control Europe without committing another literal genocide (but a cultural genocide of all national identities).

Literally nobody is floating that idea.

Also, the whole 'They want to make a European super state' is just some the pro-Brexit nonsense that helped convince idiots to vote for brexit.

The EU discussion revolves around supranationalism vs intergovernmentalism. The EU claims to be an intergovernmental organisation.

This is not true and it actually uses both supranational and intergovernmental structures in its organisation.

It is absolutely true that, among the senior ranks of the EU hierarchy, there are many people looking to the long-term establishment of the superstate. There are very few to no people who are looking to repatriate powers to the nation states.

The EU and ever closer union absolutely are about the creation of a superstate. Anyone who does not realise this can be safely dismissed.

Right...where to start with this nonsense.

Every single European country is fiercely independent and protective of their culture and identity. Most states tolerate the EU as they see the benefits in free trade agreements and most members get a net financial benefit from being a member. Stop talking bollocks.

Indeed, where to start. It's so painfully ironic that some people who strongly identify with the European identity are crying about some African people in "their" countries. There is soooo much I could write about this but for now let's just bring up European colonialism and imperialism over hundreds of years where tiny Europe has forced its own identities on the rest of the world so that a large part of the world has lost it's own identity and has been replaced by names, languages, histories, systems of economics, systems of belief, systems of law, standards of beauty....this could go on literally forever....

Just a tiny thing to think about out of billions upon billions: Africa has thousands, THOUSANDS of its own languages and dialects but Europe forced its half a dozen or so languages on this huge continent, with rich, deep complex histories and identities, not to mention the rest of the world....
Ruppolini

1 year ago 03/02/2019 8:58am CST
re: yg676

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There's nothing anthropology majors enjoy more than studying exotic and unmeddled cultures at an arms length distance, and they're pissed someone brought progress to the African continent for a limited time.

Go study the natives on Sentinel island.
yg767

1 year ago 03/02/2019 9:01am CST
re: Ruppolini

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Ruppolini wrote:

they're pissed someone brought progress to the African continent for a limited time.

Go study the natives on Sentinel island.

What do you mean by this ?
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1 year ago 03/02/2019 9:06am CST
re: rojo

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rojo wrote:

Now that the world is global, a lot of that is being lost. Why do you think sports are so freaking popular?

You root for your local town.

To borrow from Jerry Seinfeld, now that professional sport is so globalized and player turnover so high, you are really just rooting for your local laundry.
Ruppolini

1 year ago 03/02/2019 9:10am CST
re: yg767

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It's a thought experiment.

1) What would African continent look like today if they had been living isolated from the rest of the world for the entire time after the first people migrated away from Africa?

2) Sentinel island is host to a small population of indigenous people whom outsiders are forbidden to contact. You might find their hunter gatherer ways interesting, but you'll also find they're not too friendly.
yg767

1 year ago 03/02/2019 9:27am CST
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Ruppolini wrote:
1) What would African continent look like today if they had been living isolated from the rest of the world for the entire time after the first people migrated away from Africa?

There are problems with this question whirling around my head. Immediately what is commonly referred to as "African" people who I would personally think of as the Originals, the first people or even melanted people (some people say Aboriginals, Asiatic [this would include the Sentinelese, Australian Aboriginals and other melanted people throughout North East Africa (the "Middle East" and "Arabian" peninsula), south Asia, southeast Asia and the Pacific], Nubian, Ethiopian, etc) have the whole planet as their home so they are not restricted to the continent of Africa, as you show with your mention of the Sentinelese.

Ruppolini wrote:
2) Sentinel island is host to a small population of indigenous people whom outsiders are forbidden to contact. You might find their hunter gatherer ways interesting, but you'll also find they're not too friendly.

I know them; they are perfect.
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1 year ago 03/02/2019 9:35am CST
re: yg767

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Jesus f-ing Christ, please move to another thread so we can get on topic please. Thank you.
historian

1 year ago 03/02/2019 12:39pm CST
re: rojo

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u enjoy stirring up more site visits

When the US faced SLEXIT we didn't just give the leaving countries a hard time, we went to war with them and made them remain.

Within the US, although fairly homogeneous, there is always a strong rooting interest by state and region.

This is stronger in Europe because the states have unique languages and cultures.

Europe can see what has happened in the US, one big combined culture where you really can hardly tell what city you are in as language, stores, roads, buildings, and food all look the same. While Europe wants to enjoy the benefits of one customs market, no border crossing and 1 currency, they jealously guard their languages and cultures to prevent them from disappearing into a US of Europe.