29 NCAA guys have broken 4:00 this year- what's the most ever?

college sopha said: 29 NCAA guys have broken 4:00 this year- what's the most ever?

I keep a lot of data on sub-4 miles but I do not keep track of which guys are or which races are in the NCAA so I regret I am not able to answer your specific question.

what I can tell you is this:

1. there were more sub-4 miles run in 2018 than in any previous year. there were 243 sub-4s in 2018 and the previous highest year was 1982 with 208 sub-4s. there have only ever been 4 years with more than 200 sub-4s, 1986 202, 1985 206, 1982 208, 2018 243.

2. of those 243 sub-4s run in 2018, 140 of them were run by Americans. this is only the second year ever that Americans have run more than 100 sub-4s. the previous record was 2013 when Americans ran 103 sub-4 miles. the next highest country was Great Britain with 17, Kenya 13 and Australia and New Zealand with 11 each. men from 24 different countries went sub-4 in 2018 including 1 from Poland, 2 from Japan, 2 from Brazil and 1 from Germany, all of which are countries that use the metric system.

3. if we define "current" as having run at least one sub-4 mile in the last 36 months, then of current US milers, the guy with the most is Leo Manzano with 24. others with more than 19 are Garrett Heath 23, Will Leer 22, Ben Blankenship 20, Lopez Lomong 20, and Kyle Merber 20.

cheers.

I could also have mentioned that 58 men ran their first sub-4 in 2018, and of them, 29 were Americans, which is the number you came up with.

name / mark / pos / venue / meet / date

Brian Shrader USA 3:59.41i 1 Birmingham, AL 19-Jan-2018

Kyle Mau USA 3:59.15i 1 Bloomington, IL 27-Jan-2018

Shadrack Kipchirchir USA 3:55.52i 1 Boston, MA John Thomas Terrier Classic 27-Jan-2018

Emmanuel Bor USA 3:58.77i 7 Boston, MA John Thomas Terrier Classic 27-Jan-2018

Jonathan Davis USA 3:58.46i 1 Champaign, IL 27-Jan-2018

Mick Stanovsek USA 3:57.90i 1 New York, NY Dr. Sander Invitational 27-Jan-2018

Cooper Teare USA 3:59.29i 4 New York, NY Dr. Sander Invitational 27-Jan-2018

David Ribich USA 3:58.88i 3 Seattle, WA UW Indoor Preview 27-Jan-2018

Colin Abert USA 3:59.51i 1 University Park, PA Sykes & Sabcock Challenge Cup 03-Feb-2018

Paul Chelimo USA 3:58.59i 2 Winston-Salem, NC Camel City Invitational 03-Feb-2018

Vincent Ciattei USA 3:59.57i 5 Winston-Salem, NC Camel City Invitational 03-Feb-2018

Patrick Joseph USA 3:59.59i 6 Winston-Salem, NC Camel City Invitational 03-Feb-2018

Alex Riba USA 3:59.12i 1 Clemson, SC 09-Feb-2018

Benjamin Young USA 3:59.59i 2 Clemson, SC 09-Feb-2018

Michael Hall USA 3:59.37i 5 Boston, MA David Hemery Invitational 10-Feb-2018

Martin Martinez USA 3:59.38i 6 Boston, MA David Hemery Invitational 10-Feb-2018

Samuel Worley USA 3:58.04i 4 Seattle, WA Husky Classic 10-Feb-2018

Jeremy Hernandez USA 3:59.01i 2 Boston, MA Boston University Last Chance Meet 25-Feb-2018

Reid Buchanan USA 3:59.24i 3 Boston, MA Boston University Last Chance Meet 25-Feb-2018

Louis Serafini USA 3:59.33i 4 Boston, MA Boston University Last Chance Meet 25-Feb-2018

Jordan Mann USA 3:58.94i 7 Boston, MA Boston University Last Chance Meet 25-Feb-2018

Willy Fink USA 3:59.44 3 Atlanta, GA Wingfoot Mile 22-May-2018

Nick Harris USA 3:58.88 3 Saint Louis, MO St. Louis Festival of Miles 31-May-2018

Derek Gutierez USA 3:59.48 4 Saint Louis, MO St. Louis Festival of Miles 31-May-2018

Brett Meyer USA 3:59.77 6 Saint Louis, MO St. Louis Festival of Miles 31-May-2018

David Timlin USA 3:57.69 3 Concord, MA Adrian Martinez Classic 07-Jun-2018

Charlie Marquardt USA 3:55.97 9 Raleigh, NC Sir Walter Raleigh Mile 03-Aug-2018

Jacob Thomson USA 3:57.07 12 Raleigh, NC Sir Walter Raleigh Mile 03-Aug-2018

Sam Parsons USA 3:59.70 10 Bay Shore, NY Long Island Mile 05-Sep-2018

cheers.

There have only been 27 guys break 4 this year according to tfrrs. Altitude conversions dont count.

Splitty McSplitterson wrote:

There have only been 27 guys break 4 this year according to tfrrs. Altitude conversions dont count.

Make that 28 guys. There was a tie for 29th. So there are 30 guys but 2 are altitude conversions which wouldn't count.

I did my best to go through tfrrs and get a count for each year since 2010. I had to count altitude and track conversions and remove any that were not actual sub 4s. I may have made some mistakes so feel free to double check.

Number of NCAA indoor sub 4 miles each year since 2010

2019 - 28

2018 - 23

2017 - 20

2016 - 30

2015 - 27

2014 - 18

2013 - 28

2012 - 31

2011 - 21

2010 - 19

college sopha wrote:

Anyone?

Who cares.

Why are we still talking about something that happened 65 years ago as a great performance today? 4 min mile is a good time to run, but it's nothing to write home about.

You don't see folks talking about running 10.2 in the 100m. That was the WR 65 years ago. Nobody is talking about 10.2.

The WR is 3:43....light years from 4 minutes.

Quit talking about a 4 minute mile.

WTF!

If you were a real tack fan, you would appreciate discussing depth in the sport. If we only had the world record holder competing, we wouldn't have a sport. 4 minutes is a nice barrier that only a small number of college guys break each year.

3:55 is where it's at these days.

There is only one runner in the NCAA who has broken 3:55 so it isn't the new 4 minutes. 3:55 is the new 3:56.

last year, 2018 there were 30 men who broke 4:00. Pretty impressive.

cotton shirt wrote:

college sopha said: 29 NCAA guys have broken 4:00 this year- what's the most ever?

the next highest country was Great Britain with 17, Kenya 13 and Australia and New Zealand with 11 each. men from 24 different countries went sub-4 in 2018 including 1 from Poland, 2 from Japan, 2 from Brazil and 1 from Germany, all of which are countries that use the metric system.

cheers.

"all of which use the metric system"

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i'd just like to point out that the trolling itt is completely uninspired

ezby said: "all of which use the metric system"

not quite sure what point you are trying to make, but Poland, Japan, Brazil and Germany all use the metric system, which is what I said. you might find this hard to believe, but punctuation plays a crucial role in reading comprehension. weird, I know. but that's how it goes.

thanks for reading.

cheers.

men from 24 different countries went sub-4 in 2018 including 1 from Poland, 2 from Japan, 2 from Brazil and 1 from Germany, all of which are countries that use the metric system.

cotton shirt wrote:

ezby said: "all of which use the metric system"

not quite sure what point you are trying to make, but Poland, Japan, Brazil and Germany all use the metric system, which is what I said. you might find this hard to believe, but punctuation plays a crucial role in reading comprehension. weird, I know. but that's how it goes.

thanks for reading.

cheers.

men from 24 different countries went sub-4 in 2018 including 1 from Poland, 2 from Japan, 2 from Brazil and 1 from Germany, all of which are countries that use the metric system.

The point was that all of the countries listed use the metric system other than the US. The US is one of the only countries in the world that doesn't use the metric system.

Valentine McKee wrote:

cotton shirt wrote:

not quite sure what point you are trying to make, but Poland, Japan, Brazil and Germany all use the metric system, which is what I said. you might find this hard to believe, but punctuation plays a crucial role in reading comprehension. weird, I know. but that's how it goes.

thanks for reading.

cheers.

The point was that all of the countries listed use the metric system other than the US. The US is one of the only countries in the world that doesn't use the metric system.

Exactly. You made the comment "all of which use the metric system" as though it's some obscurity and worth taking note of. You don't have to mention if a country uses the metric system, as it's what every country in the world does nah aside from America, Myanmar and Liberia.

cotton shirt wrote:

college sopha said: 29 NCAA guys have broken 4:00 this year- what's the most ever?

2. of those 243 sub-4s run in 2018, 140 of them were run by Americans. this is only the second year ever that Americans have run more than 100 sub-4s. the previous record was 2013 when Americans ran 103 sub-4 miles. the next highest country was Great Britain with 17, Kenya 13 and Australia and New Zealand with 11 each. men from 24 different countries went sub-4 in 2018 including 1 from Poland, 2 from Japan, 2 from Brazil and 1 from Germany, all of which are countries that use the metric system.

cheers.

This is an amazing stat. Shows the standard of college running. Incredible strength in depth .

Leddy Gee wrote:

Number of NCAA indoor sub 4 miles each year since 2010

2019 - 28

2018 - 23

2017 - 20

2016 - 30

2015 - 27

2014 - 18

2013 - 28

2012 - 31

2011 - 21

2010 - 19

Will you tally how many sub-3:42.22 1500 runners there were outdoors each year?

Leddy Gee wrote:

I did my best to go through tfrrs and get a count for each year since 2010. I had to count altitude and track conversions and remove any that were not actual sub 4s. I may have made some mistakes so feel free to double check.

Number of NCAA indoor sub 4 miles each year since 2010

2019 - 28

2018 - 23

2017 - 20

2016 - 30

2015 - 27

2014 - 18

2013 - 28

2012 - 31

2011 - 21

2010 - 19

It may be a coincidence, maybe not, but most of the lowest years are non-world championship and non-olympic years with 2010, 2014, and 2018 at 19, 18, 23 respectively. World championship years more in 2011, 2013, 2015, 2017, and 2019 with 21, 28, 27, 20, 28. And then the Olympic years with 31, and 30.

Off-year average: 20

World Championship average: 24.8

Olympic average: 30.5

Maybe a few of the elite guys get a little extra motivation dreaming about competing at world championships or olympics?

Inflated guy wrote:

There is only one runner in the NCAA who has broken 3:55 so it isn't the new 4 minutes. 3:55 is the new 3:56.

3:50 is the new 4:00 min mile. No NCAA guys are touching that in 2018 or 2019.