Ritz - 1:01:27

zcxvxczv wrote:

Let's hear why those are worthless. I'm waiting.

Hi Montesquieu!

Waiting and waiting wrote:

This Montesquieu clown still has not stated what the PhD is.

Probably something worthless like psychology or sociology or communications.

He's embarrassed as he was called out on bragging about his fake degree when the subject was how long Dathan spends time training in the Winter in Grand Rapids, something he knows nothing about.

xzcvzxcvzxcv wrote:

zcxvxczv wrote:

Let's hear why those are worthless. I'm waiting.

Hi Montesquieu!

You're probably right on it being him.

People like him never like to admit that they are wrong about anything...excuses galore. His stealth brag intended to impress people backfired big time.

I had a friend like that once. Said adios as it gets old after several years. Montesquieu???

He's comparing himself to the genius below and likes to think of himself as being as smart.

sp2 wrote:

'thoner.

Really? Who talks or writes this way? It takes more effort to type an apostrophe than to just type ‘mara’... good grief!

ruh roh - better photos now show he may have used the new Brooks shoe with the carbon spring like Desi uses

that does not appear to be Hyperions or the Hyperion Elite

but I guess for those that are okay with carbon springs, especially if it levels the field against the sea of vaporflys, it probably guarantees he'll not only make it to the marathon trials but also go under 2:10, possibly even PR since he's never had shoes like that

https://imgur.com/a/EGVpAlf

gotta love the flight though, pretty darn fit for 36

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzEhBOXU8AA9EGK.jpg

Ritz has a new online column on Competitor Group’s in-house running news site (which I didn’t realize was still a thing?) on which he shares full splits from three big workouts in the build-up to last uear’s NYC Half and this RnR New Orleans Half:

https://running.pocketoutdoormedia.com/ritz-on-running-dont-live-and-die-by-the-numbers_176394

The workouts are a ways in (scroll down until you get to the images from his training log), but totally worth digging up if you’re interested in seeing what big workouts for a guy at Ritz’s level look like.

Lastly, while Dathan’s argument in this piece is that experienced runners have the cumulative fitness to run better than their most-recent workouts indicate, I think this is another anecdotal data point for the magic of the new shoes.

Thanks for sharing the link. Presumably he wore the same shoes in practice, so that's not really a factor.

The easier rest was more progressive, and allowed him to benefit more from that workout than from the previous sessions.

I wouldn't assume that. I'm sure he does some sessions in the shoes he races in, but I wouldn't necessarily assume that of any given session (and would guess that most sessions wouldn't be). But this is all conjecture, by both of us. Results remain inconclusive unless we hear from Ritz himself.

Regardless, those workouts are something else. . .

False. The point of running is to test the limits of the human heart. (That means run fast, not win championships...)

dunes runner wrote:

Presumably he wore the same shoes in practice, so that's not really a factor.

His racing shoes look a lot like Shadrack's newest prototypes (with a new colorway instead of all black)

Kinda doubt he used those in practice outside of test runs. Then again Stephanie Bruce trained in Hoka Carbon Rocket prototypes for for half a year before they were available otherwise so I guess anything is possible.

Not An Expert wrote:

I'm sure he does some sessions in the shoes he races in, but I wouldn't necessarily assume that of any given session (and would guess that most sessions wouldn't be).

I'm referring specifically to the session in question.

In my opinion, wearing different shoes for a session like that and an important race would be foolish.

I personally always wore the same shoes for important training sessions that I wore in subsequent races.

Even so, I always ran much faster in races, wearing the same shoes.

Based on that experience, I would not be surprised if others also ran much faster in races wearing

the same shoes that they wore for important sessions in training. Also, it wouldn't surprise me if others

ran much faster wearing different shoes than in training, though doing so would be more likely to cause issues.

YMMV wrote:

GRHobbyJogger wrote:

I have seen him around GR in the last month or so and know he does some good hard workouts at the GVSU indoor track. .

Ritz be careful! Don't let history repeat itself!

Don't worry too much daddy. He'll be fine.

There is an IG post showing his shoes in good detail.

Shoes schoes wrote:

There is an IG post showing his shoes in good detail.

really? where? because this is the highest quality I can find so far and that upper is a complete mystery, it's not the same as Shadrack's like I was thinking originally

Another Lens wrote:

trackee wrote:

The point of running is to win races, particularly championships. It’s not to run fast for sixth place in time trials.

False. The point of running is to test the limits of the human heart. (That means run fast, not win championships...)

You’ve watched Without Limits too many times. The point is to beat your competitors. It’s a race, not a time trial.

I was thinking:

Ritz is 36, 37 in 2020.

A few lackluster years with injuries.

in 1984 Lopes was 37 after a few lackluster years with injury he wins Olympic Gold.

OK, I don't think Ritz will win Gold but wouldn't that be cool?

Ritz2020 wrote:

GBohannon wrote:

Great come from behind win for Ritz. Looks like he is a real contender to make another Olympic team. I wasn’t sure if that was the case.

Wow, GBohannon, Ye of little faith.

I believed the whole time and still do. He's tougher than most of you give him credit for.

I'm from Michigan and Dathan does NOT train in Grand Rapids area the entire winter, hardly. Whoever Montesquieu is, he doesn't know what he's talking about. He's registered, but is clueless on where Dathan trains.

Dathan WILL be a top contender on February 29th, 2019. The hills won't hurt him at all, just if it's extremely humid that day, otherwise he's got a real chance to make the team.

Monday, February 18:

-AM: Woke up to 4 inches of snow, so I pushed the workout to the afternoon and just ran and easy 4 mile shakeout from home and waited for the roads to clear. Average pace 6:32 per mile.

-Rehab: After my morning run I had 45 minutes of treatment with Dr. Jason Ross from Train Out Pain Chiropractic. I normally see him twice a week for Chiro/fascia work, he’s amazing. He also does my strength training program. Once a week I also see my physical therapists Adam Homolka at Endurance Rehab and Athletics and Dave Asselin at PT360 Physical Therapy —but not this week as I head to training camp. I’m going to be missing that down in Florida!

Perhaps he had been in Michigan prior to the New Orleans half, which was on February 9.

Montesquieu wrote:

Monday, February 18:

-AM: Woke up to 4 inches of snow, so I pushed the workout to the afternoon and just ran and easy 4 mile shakeout from home and waited for the roads to clear. Average pace 6:32 per mile.

-Rehab:

Here's a crazy idea, but maybe if Ritz would slow down on his easy runs. He wouldn't be so injury prone, need to do so much rehab work, be able to do more weekly volume and run faster. I remember a podcast with him on leading up to Boston last year. Talking about how he'll only do some workouts with Shadrack Biwott. As his easy mileage, is really easy. To paraphrase Ritz from that podcast, he does a lot more mileage at a easy pace. Guess which one pulled out of Boston and which one got third.