However, like happens in any Court, we need to have investigation in any INDIVIDUIAL case, because the reasons and the situations are different. I want to follow the law, but I refuse to throw out the baby too with the dirty water.
If a deep investigation finds proves and arguments showing a doping administration by some management, the management MUST be banned for ever. If a Federation is involved, it's correct to ban, till when there are not changes in positive way (see Russia). But we can't forget that athletics is an INDIVIDUAL sport, and that is not fair to involve clean persons (athletes, official, coaches, managers) in the mistakes of other people.
For example, western Countries (specifically US and UK) continued to fight against Russia for its conclamated doping, but forgot to think there are plenty Russian athletes really clean, that suffer for NOT having the opportunity to participate in any activity (not only the institutional) out of their Country. I had in training in Iten, for 3 months last year, the Russian champion of HM (Stepan Kiselev), athletes very humble, very friendly, and totally clean, who NEVER had some answer to his documented request to the IAAF for being included in the list of athletes who can compete abroad like ANA.
Is this right ? Two years without any answer to a request following a protocol.
So, I never can accept any stereotype, like "Kenyan are doped", or "Communists eat babies", or "White are more intelligent", or "Black are more talented", or "Muslims are terrorists", or "Priests are pedophilis", but I look at INDIVIDUALS.
This is something I can't agree about your normal posts. You put all Kenyans in the same pot, when I well know the most part are clean, and specifically the most part of the bests, because are athletes not able to emerge who look at some doping in the wrong idea that is possible to fill the gap.
I told this a lot of time : with some talent I saw in my life, ALL the current WR don't represent any human limit, because in many cases was possible to run still faster. I had the case of Shaheen, who could run under 7'50" in 2006, but wasted the opportunity during Zurich meeting for big mistake of the last pacer (Richard Mateelong), and didn't try again because the season had still some important goal, like to win (only athlete in the history) both 5000m and 3000m steeple in the World Cup (something he did in Athens), and to win 3 gold medals in Asian Games in Doha (1500, 5000 and 10000) something he could not do because the stupid injury that blocked his career when only 24. But we can have many other cases : for example Kenenisa Bekele, who when bettered (twice) the WR of 10,000m, one time was out of shape, the other time was sick.
So, what I say is that who thinks Kenyan win because of doping, really doesn't have any idea about what a talented athlete can do with proper training, and automatically creates mental limits in all the athletes who want to train and compete in clean way. I think the young Ingebrigtsen is an answer to all people thinking not possible running fast, if you are not blach and not doped.
In the case of Rosa, I know something that the posters don't know. I know the agreement between the management and IAAF/WADA for fighting doping, I know they started tests with their athletes before putting in some race, I know they removed doubtful athletes from the management (provoking the reaction of Isaiah Kiplagat, who banned the management for some time). And I know, how already explained, that in the type of organization they had, and have, there is a big room of individual opportunities for acting without control, because the number of Camps in the most part of Kenya can't have any strict control by the central management.
I try personally to educate the athletes I coach (together with John Litei) to the right values. becausev I think that only persons with high moral values can become good athletes, able to last at the top for long time. And in my "lessons" always I explain what you think is a lie : DOPING DOESN'T WORK IF YOU HAVE THE RIGHT FOCUS, THE CONTINUITY AND FOLLOW PROPER TRAINING, WITHOUT FEARING NOT POSSIBLE TO RECOVER.
In long distances, blood doping can work with weak athletes, or athletes always training at sea level, or athletes with good talent but too easy training, and without continuity ; NOT with strong athletes, always training in altitude, and hard and proper training. There is not a SUM of physiological variations (the effects of training plus the effects of doping) when the training is at higher level, because already with training the body is pushed at the limits under the physiological point of view, and if we add something in one side, we lose something in another side. The balance of the quality is one of the most important goals of training, and this is possible only if the growth of the aerobic level comes naturally, with graduality and continuity, something not possible with doping.
About steroids, this is another story ; but it seems that the doping campaign is mainly against EPO, that can replace part of training, but can also be replaced by the training itself (something that can't happen taking steroids : with training only is not possible to reach the same level of strength).