Some people are satisfied with running a 24 minute 5k but for others it could be 16 minutes. It’s all relative.
Some people are satisfied with running a 24 minute 5k but for others it could be 16 minutes. It’s all relative.
nerp wrote:
Genetics isn't the only thing...it's everything! wrote:
And if an athlete keeps getting injured running high mileage...then what?
Then they're probably running those miles too fast or upping their mileage too quicky.
Or injury prone. Another component of genetics is injury probability. And there are many runners out there; amateurs & elites alike, who are constantly injured no matter what rehab or cross-training they do, shoes they wear, downtime they take, etc.
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2015/02/the-genetics-of-being-injury-prone/385257/https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24367777Very few true nonresponders would be on this site, and very few would be encountered in races.
Research has certainly found people who, in controlled circumstances, simply show little or no training effect. They just do not improve.
In my years of teaching adult fitness classes I did encounter a very few who might have been in that category--they exercised regularly but simply did not improve--but it 's something that can only be determined for certain in a much more controlled clinical setting.
I wonder how many “non-responders” have never done speedwork in their life and run all their runs at that silly sub-tempo pace that provides minimal benefit?
Sorry for the bump but I am fairly sure I am a non-responder with speed. I have tried plyos, drills, weights, 30-60m all out speed sessions with full recovery and my top end sprint speed stays the same, even if I am sore and building muscle after a workout I hit the same old times. I know how to push myself, my balance is fairly good and I am consistant, I can run sub 5 miles all day but couldn’t for the life of me break 13 in the 100 probably ever in my life. I am 25 years old and have pretty much had the same top end speed as I did 10 years ago.
Jaytbh wrote:
I wonder how many “non-responders” have never done speedwork in their life and run all their runs at that silly sub-tempo pace that provides minimal benefit?
Most of them. I think they are addicted to training hard in the same wrong way year after year. And nothing you can say to them will make any difference.
LetsRun makes me laugh. Every single thread about sprinting that I’ve read all consists of sprinting being entirely genetic and distance runners on,y choosing distance because they didn’t respond to sprint training and were slow no matter what so they moved up to distance. So seeing as 70% of LetsRun seems to think they are non-responders to SPEED training and that there is a huge genetic component then why do those same people not think the same about DISTANCE training?
The reality is, most of you slow types that can’t break 14.0 FAT in a 100M yet can run your 5:30 miles all day have never tried TRUE speed training and the same stands true for these so-called aerobic non-responders, the typical advice out there in the gym, on sports fields is that HIIT or running hard is the only way to improve cardio so that’s all these people ever do thus get no aerobic stimulas because they aren’t training properly, they are too busy doing their silly tabata workouts and if they do on sustained runs it is ata silly tempo pace and they never truly get into the aerobic zone, look at guys on the average soccer team for example, they’d rather run as hard as they can for 15 minutes (which would consist of 8 minutes at 6 minute mile pace, die hard and slow down dramatically to like 8:30 pace for the next 7 minutes) rather than just do 40 minutes of paced running at 7:30 pace to get the aerobic benefit.
Bottom line: people do not improve their aerobic capacity because they’re too busy exercising anaerobically instead of training properly. To be honest I don't blame them, I’d rather have high explosive fitness and coordination rather than the ability to run 8:30 miles for 4 hours straight.
There were recent studies showing worse exercise heart function in those born prematurely. I think that would put someone into the low/non-responder category.
I’m a D2 female runner. Our coach explicitly told us not to visit LetsRun forums.
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