He left for personal reasons. He is not searching for a new coaching gig. Certainly not Stanford.
He left for personal reasons. He is not searching for a new coaching gig. Certainly not Stanford.
Will provide an alternative viewpoint wrote:
I respect what Coach Hadsell wrote, but I completely disagree. While only having to "work" in the fall would be attractive for a lifestyle for athletic development it would miss the mark. Certainly Coach Hadsell took a team to NCAA without a qualifier in track, but those women competed on a consistent basis. They didn't compete "unattached" which means they go to meets on their own. There is information that I was given that the head coach will NOT be able to attend meets with the athletes, therefore the athlete lose out on the important development during track season. Track season isn't everything, but its important to the total development. I would ask, name all the athletes that have come out of cross country only programs (Northwestern, Dayton, etc) and list how many of them qualified for the NCAA cross country meet. No doubt the list would be very short. Northwestern is trying to attract athletes to pay $75,000 per year unless they get aid. That is a tough sell, even though NW is a great school. But so is Michigan, and Notre Dame, and Wisconsin. The coaches that were there the last four years did a fantastic job of recruiting hard and developing their athletes, and they couldn't get close to NCAA's. Just another opinion.
I can see that point of view as well. The ability to stay “on-point” throughout the year would certainly aid in the cumulative training/competing benefits.
I’ve been out of the loop, so maybe this is no longer the case, but Olympic sports that the championship season falls in the Spring or Fall, are allowed to compete in “out-of-season” competitions. Soccer, for instance, can do 3-4 scrimmages. Cross country (we were men’s xc only) we’re allowed to compete in 4 meets out of season.
Things changed a bit when the loophole allowed for these individuals to compete at the NCAAs in that “out-of-season”. However, I would be surprised if the OOS competitions have been completely eliminated. Seems like they can still do OOS meets (just like other sports do) except they can no longer compete at the NCAAs regardless of their marks.
Those rules, by the way, we pretty restrictive. The OOS cannot happen during exams and they couldn’t happen outside of a certain mile radius of your institution. Again, I’m a bit out of the loop but seems like the OOS competitions are allowable just no advancing?
~From the cheap seats
Abc 123 wrote:
Agreement wrote:
Frazier has done an amazing job at Barton. Torrence was a beast by the end of the year, and his kids were amazing and down to earth young men so he's obviously doing something right. A very talented coach who will do well for Bama.
Hiring high school coaches is a bit iffier because of how much depends on recruiting. Personally, young men with college coaching experience should be getting a shot before high school coaches but I have seen a shift especially at the D3 level with high school dudes getting hired. Does suck living in poverty to "pay your dues" then see some random dude with an only ok resume from a high school get hired instead, however.
I’m referring to names that have ALL of the above as their experience. Not just high school. These men have “paid their dues” by volunteering while coaching high school AND have been Juco or D2 D3 coaches as well as running pro in the sport. Frazier is just one example but I’m sure there will be a few more announced this week. Even been hearing 1 female always in the mix so who knows
I love the hire that was my point. My "paying my dues" comment (although I think thats a stupid concept anyways) was more about high school coaches getting jobs straight up. This is a new trend especially in d3 they would rather hire a high school dude for some reason ti seems then someone with like d2/ d1 experience. But if they have high school experience and have shown that they can recruit in college then hell yeah they should be hired. Recruiting is the biggest thing in the college game. You can be the best coach ever but if you can't recruit you're screwed.
Interested to know... wrote:
Went to Houston and was a pretty good runner, so I'm sure there is a connection. The Juco jump happens on occasion, see Shaver and Pat Henry. When you have a dude go 13.5 in the 110 it will get you noticed for sure.
What if you’ve coached 2 guys to 13.5 and still can’t even get interviews?[/quote]
What level are you coaching at? What jobs are you applying to, if you are someone at a small school/ high school you are probably not getting the Oregon job etc. unless you have mad connections. Maybe you are reaching a bit with the applications you know. I don't know but 2 at 13.5 is impressive. The one thing I will say is that 13.5 at 42 is a much different animal then 13.5 at 39 inches.
What happened to Coach O?
shut up and dribble wrote:
lockhart is an awesome coach and a better person. rare to come across an actually genuine dude in this industry who truly cares about his athletes and not just political bs. wherever he ends up will be very lucky.
You obviously don't know Bob.
Pope T-Bag II wrote:
Yass wrote:
One season on, two seasons off with the same pay. Where do I sign up?
This.
Yeah. For 135k/year.
As I have continually said...biggest doucher in the game.
Known Unknowns wrote:
Interested to know who the known unknown up and coming sprints and hurdles coaches that are in line to take over these pretty decent jobs.
Meaning unknown to the general public but known amongst the top coaches. Those are likely the men or women to scoop up jobs like Arizona State, USF, Texas A&M, Western Kentucky, Boston, UC, Kennesaw - the list goes on.
What’s the chatter?
What ... how did Kennesaw get in there with some real schools?
Known Unknowns wrote:
Interested to know who the known unknown up and coming sprints and hurdles coaches that are in line to take over these pretty decent jobs.
Meaning unknown to the general public but known amongst the top coaches. Those are likely the men or women to scoop up jobs like Arizona State, USF, Texas A&M, Western Kentucky, Boston, UC, Kennesaw - the list goes on.
What’s the chatter?
What ... how did Kennesaw get in there with some real schools?
Announcement for UMD's new distance coach is coming soon.
Word is gvsu,m and Rutgers made hires. Any word on who? Also heard Miami distance is done but again no one seems to know.
wejo wrote:
Sorry I actually deleted this thread when trying to delete a post.
That's okay ... everyone thought thread was deleted because all the posts were obscene and libelous!
Jahjah wrote:
Word is gvsu,m and Rutgers made hires. Any word on who? Also heard Miami distance is done but again no one seems to know.
Miami is going to Codey Halsey from Oklahoma State. It’s been done for a while.
Chipchump wrote:
As I have continually said...biggest doucher in the game.
Please explain your reasoning.
Who is Maryland going with?
Agreement wrote:
Interested to know... wrote:
Went to Houston and was a pretty good runner, so I'm sure there is a connection. The Juco jump happens on occasion, see Shaver and Pat Henry. When you have a dude go 13.5 in the 110 it will get you noticed for sure.
What if you’ve coached 2 guys to 13.5 and still can’t even get interviews?
What level are you coaching at? What jobs are you applying to, if you are someone at a small school/ high school you are probably not getting the Oregon job etc. unless you have mad connections. Maybe you are reaching a bit with the applications you know. I don't know but 2 at 13.5 is impressive. The one thing I will say is that 13.5 at 42 is a much different animal then 13.5 at 39 inches.[/quote]
Applying EVERYWHERE. Can’t get an interview for ANY D1 job and even D2/D3 interviews are scarce. Was at a smaller D1 when I coached those guys (recruited one, inherited the other at 13.8). Also had 3 other guys qualify for regionals in 110H. 8 total regional qualifiers in 110H alone in less than 7 years. And that’s just ONE event...
Interested to know... wrote:
Agreement wrote:
What if you’ve coached 2 guys to 13.5 and still can’t even get interviews?
What level are you coaching at? What jobs are you applying to, if you are someone at a small school/ high school you are probably not getting the Oregon job etc. unless you have mad connections. Maybe you are reaching a bit with the applications you know. I don't know but 2 at 13.5 is impressive. The one thing I will say is that 13.5 at 42 is a much different animal then 13.5 at 39 inches.
Applying EVERYWHERE. Can’t get an interview for ANY D1 job and even D2/D3 interviews are scarce. Was at a smaller D1 when I coached those guys (recruited one, inherited the other at 13.8). Also had 3 other guys qualify for regionals in 110H. 8 total regional qualifiers in 110H alone in less than 7 years. And that’s just ONE event...[/quote]
Why aren't you still at that school? Why did you leave?
Always possible your head coach is not recommending you for jobs when he gets the call so he can keep you. I know for a fact it happens.
Also heard Pat Tracy from Western Michigan is headed to GVSU but who knows. Saw his athletes on the portal too.
Yahooooweee wrote:
Always possible your head coach is not recommending you for jobs when he gets the call so he can keep you. I know for a fact it happens.
Also heard Pat Tracy from Western Michigan is headed to GVSU but who knows. Saw his athletes on the portal too.
Head coach isn’t/wasn’t the problem. Answering specifics may give away my anonymity. To keep it short, under 35k a year isn’t worth staying if you can make more outside coaching and your spouse (breadwinner) gets a job outside the state.
Maybe my cover letter sucks...
I’m a D2 female runner. Our coach explicitly told us not to visit LetsRun forums.
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