Farah doing low squats with 40kg- so where does his speed come from?

Farah is not 3-5% body fat, don't believe such silly numbers. More like 8% when he's racing.

His speed is nothing special, he's a distance runner. He is not and never has been sub 12 material for 100. His speed endurance is exceptional and has been since he ran 1.48 for 800 when he was young. It's called fitness baby. He runs a lot more than you and races with his heart and soul, always has done.

20 year analysis wrote:

Farah is not 3-5% body fat, don't believe such silly numbers. More like 8% when he's racing.

His speed is nothing special, he's a distance runner. He is not and never has been sub 12 material for 100. His speed endurance is exceptional and has been since he ran 1.48 for 800 when he was young. It's called fitness baby. He runs a lot more than you and races with his heart and soul, always has done.

He’s not 8%.

You’re making assumptions from one video. He’s done 200lb x 5 reps.

Alan

Runningart2004 wrote:

You’re making assumptions from one video. He’s done 200lb x 5 reps.

Alan

+1

It’s not like every lifting session is 100% of what you could lift for that set.

And speed doesn’t necessarily mean you can lift a lot.

Also, Farrah isn’t very ‘fast’. Low 12 100m at best. Probably 23 high or 24 and 49 low. Pretty slow for a 3:28 guy.

Ggff wrote:

He’s not 8%.

8% is very skinny.

ThatAverageRunner wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

You’re making assumptions from one video. He’s done 200lb x 5 reps.

Alan

+1

It’s not like every lifting session is 100% of what you could lift for that set.

And speed doesn’t necessarily mean you can lift a lot.

Also, Farrah isn’t very ‘fast’. Low 12 100m at best. Probably 23 high or 24 and 49 low. Pretty slow for a 3:28 guy.

High 12 low 25 and not sub 50 for 400, even though he has run 50.9 at the end of a slow (for him)5000

Don't exaggerate his speed,. His speed endurance is what counts.

20 year analysis wrote:

ThatAverageRunner wrote:

+1

It’s not like every lifting session is 100% of what you could lift for that set.

And speed doesn’t necessarily mean you can lift a lot.

Also, Farrah isn’t very ‘fast’. Low 12 100m at best. Probably 23 high or 24 and 49 low. Pretty slow for a 3:28 guy.

High 12 low 25 and not sub 50 for 400, even though he has run 50.9 at the end of a slow (for him)5000

Don't exaggerate his speed,. His speed endurance is what counts.

The times I listed were pretty slow. I’d bet my life that a fit farah who knew how to use blocks could break 25 in the 200m, assuming he was trying as if Olympic gold was on the line.

And he can break 50, too. Don’t be silly.

He's a distance runner with world class fitness. What's so hard to understand? He ran 12.98 in a 100m race.

This stupid argument comes up time after time about how fast people think Farah or Bekele could run 400. And the same argument is repeated over and over where people project their imaginary time onto them without understand that these runners can hold a very long sprint at the end of a race because of their level of fitness.

If you do a bit more anyalysis you will see that sprint times vary quite a lot amongst 5000m runners.

No way Farah is 60 kg.

Gggggg wrote:

ass to grass squats

I may be getting rusty, but i'm going to assume that this was intended to be sarcasm.

boomheadshot wrote:

Gggggg wrote:

ass to grass squats

I may be getting rusty, but i'm going to assume that this was intended to be sarcasm.

yea wtf... that was barely a quarter squat.. this should be a warmup set for mobot . i weigh 59kg and could quarter squat treble that for reps

LOL!

Fun fact: Farah ran a celebrity 100m dash with other non-sprinter athletes (boxers, jumpers, tennis players, etc) and ran like a 12.75. Some high jumper finished first with like a 10.8

Goes to show how sprinters are totally different athletes than non-sprinters.

Black Caviar wrote:

boomheadshot wrote:

I may be getting rusty, but i'm going to assume that this was intended to be sarcasm.

yea wtf... that was barely a quarter squat.. this should be a warmup set for mobot . i weigh 59kg and could quarter squat treble that for reps

And in spite of your scary great strength, Mo has 4 Olympic gold and 6 World Champ gold, and you have...?

Those squats weren't ass to grass, not even close.

20 year analysis wrote:

Ggff wrote:

He’s not 8%.

8% is very skinny.

Yup. People here brag about being 3% or getting there not realizing theyre dead at 3%. Most people are clueless as to what normal body fat percentages are. 8% is near the minimum you can have and still be healthy.

Why on earth would his squat have much to do with his speed?

osaka wrote:

LOL!

Fun fact: Farah ran a celebrity 100m dash with other non-sprinter athletes (boxers, jumpers, tennis players, etc) and ran like a 12.75. Some high jumper finished first with like a 10.8

Goes to show how sprinters are totally different athletes than non-sprinters.

I thought it was a heavyweight boxer (Anthony Joshua?) who won the 100m sprint. My preconceived notions of many things were challenged by that race and tbh, I was completely in shock when I saw that a heavyweight boxer simply blew Farah (who is a quadruple Olympic champion so the best of the best in distance running) clean off the track in a race. I felt bad for my sport and started to think that maybe the best athletes don't go into Track and Field - they go into other sports where they will make ton-load of money. I then also wondered whether Mike Tyson in his prime would have been able to destroy Bolt in a 100m race if he did a bit of training and pulled on a pair of running spikes.

The only Superstars sprint race that gives me some sort of confidence in distance running is the one where Peter Snell, pushing 40, crushed everyone despite exploding his hamstring during the race and bellowing in pain over the last 20m... Lydiard was one hell of a coach.

Question...

I question the benefits of ass-to-grass squats. Alan2004, should we be doing these? Anyone else want to jump in with an informed opinion?

No one besides sprinters coming out of the blocks needs strength at this extreme range of motion, in my opinion. Plus, the weight plus the extreme knee flexion puts the knees at risk for injury.

I seldom go below thighs parallel to the ground on squats. Opinions?

I do go slightly lower doing air squats and wall balls, but that's only a twice-monthly workout for me.

fisky wrote:

Question...

I question the benefits of ass-to-grass squats. Alan, should we be doing these? Anyone else want to jump in with an informed opinion?

No one besides sprinters coming out of the blocks needs strength at this extreme range of motion, in my opinion. Plus, the weight plus the extreme knee flexion puts the knees at risk for injury.

I seldom go below thighs parallel to the ground on squats. Opinions?

I do go slightly lower doing air squats and wall balls, but that's only a twice-monthly workout for me.

Fixed. I meant "Alan."