CaptainTuttle262 wrote:
Superior, you workouts and responsives always seem to be spot on. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Thanks! News came to me this evening ( evening in Sweden ) that one of my former coached runners did a great race just behind a world top runner.
Superiority complex wrote:
This posting under 5 different usernames by the extremely superior coach JS is borderline schizophrenic and to a certain extent hilarious.
I give my word of honor that I`m not this "Captain Tuttle 262 ". There are some people here that starts to understand the meaning of " Superior Coach J.S " .
You are so young and can still grow quite a bit in your running. Stay positive, eat healthy (but not too restrictive), listen to your body and don't compare yourself to others! You can do more than you think:)
Average talent is average talent. I would say your talent level is quite above average but you need exceptional talent to make it to sub elite level. You may max out at a 1:19 half and a 2:50-52 marathon which is still well beyond the realm of capabilities for most females no matter what the training. You could have already maxed out or you could get a lot better which proper training and consistantly staying well, the longer you stay nourished and stay on top of your ED the more your body can recover from that and the more you recover, the more physically strong you’ll get which will lead to better times and faster recovery.
The times I listed above are examples based on the limited imfo you told me and is not set in stone, you COULD OTQ if you tried upser hard and your body had some sort of breakthrough (which would be entirely luck) but I feel like the odds are against you with a 5:27 mile PR on 90 mpw AT THE MOMENT. I don’t want to discourage you but I am guessing you came here for honesty. It is however still realistic if you had potential to get much faster (eg: drop 30-40 sec from your mile) but I have every reason to believe you are already fairly highly trained given your mileage and years spent running. Faster top end speed leads to faster 100m which with training leads to faster 400m which with more training leads to faster mile which with more training leads to faster 5k, and then 10k, and then half, and then full and so on so I don’t care what anybody says, top end speed matters in every distance IF you’re trying to make it to a high level.
Nobody can say your genetic potential, there is only one way to find that out. Try new things, chase your goals, eat enough anti-inflammatory food so your body can recover fast, GET ENOUGH CALORIES, work on strength to weight ratio and do not hurt yourself.
SUPERIOR COACH JS wrote:
Long runs are overrated wrote:
Long runs are overrated. Alberto Salazar college log has him averaging about 100 MPW and did very few runs over 10 miles in length. Unless you are training for a marathon, there is no need to do a long run.
That`s true! I just confirm it.....
I won't say they're useless, but throughout most of the year, if you're not building up to a marathon distance, or beyond, getting consistent almost daily runs without taxing the system too much is probably more worthwhile than a Saturday AM 2 hour long run. You keep your base strong, and you're not fatigued on a regular basis. A 90 minute long run every couple weeks is definitely worthwhile, with a fast finish or a tempo built in will keep the engine revved up too. I feel a lot better logging a 60-70 minute run on Saturday followed by another 40-60 minute run on Sunday. Switching up the routes or intensity, and come Monday, Tuesday, I am ready to roll and not dragging. I am finding that's what my body responds best to thus far. The Karl Meltzer approach to training.
It's all relative though. A lot of factors, the biggest being your cumulative mileage and ultimately, is your rest and nutrition dialed in for your needs. Never ignore strength and mobility work either. Best of luck to ya.
Don’t do marathons now. Your body isn’t ready for them. You are maybe to light for your frame. Focus on half and 10k. Try experimenting with more hill work and tempo runs. Think strength running
Partridge wrote:
Just 3 long runs of 18-20 miles is not much for serious marathon training. Try to do at least 10 weekly long runs of up to 22 miles in the next marathon build up, and ensure to run the last few miles at goal marathon pace at least every second long run. Start with last 3 miles at marathon pace and increase up to last 8 miles.
Some additional mid week 12-15 mile runs might help too.
Anyone with me in thinking this is horrible advice?
Forget about calories and weight.Just get strong and fast, your ED will be a huge block if you want to focus on marathon. Train for the mile. Get a fast mile, you have your whole life to build your aerobic but speed is best built while youre young.
CrazySlowRunner wrote:
Partridge wrote:
Just 3 long runs of 18-20 miles is not much for serious marathon training. Try to do at least 10 weekly long runs of up to 22 miles in the next marathon build up, and ensure to run the last few miles at goal marathon pace at least every second long run. Start with last 3 miles at marathon pace and increase up to last 8 miles.
Some additional mid week 12-15 mile runs might help too.
Anyone with me in thinking this is horrible advice?
No. Probably more then you need. 5-6 runs of 20 to 22 is probably enough. Not that the OP is reading this thread anymore but I would prefer to see her splits from the "bonk" 2nd Marathon. I would suspect that's the problem.