Women's Cycling, where Biological Male, wins Women's World Championship (UCI) for age 35-39 Masters when representing Canada

Looks fair to me wrote:

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The most annoying part is that this guy looks like a pudgy dweeb, not even athletic. If your gonna rob women of their spot on a podium, at least do enough work to look like a real athlete.

HipsDon'tLie wrote:

The winner is a professor at a University? Yes, that does make sense.

Someone else that drove the news cycle recently was also a professor. Are you telling me that being a professor is NOT a mark of sanity, but possibly the opposite?

#believeallwomen

Xan-man wrote:

Unless you people wake up and start to demand that society sets unbreakable boundaries (like a man can't compete athletically against women) we will keep sliding further into this nonsense upside-down twilight zone.

Society used to have "unbreakable" boundaries about apartheid in sports, claiming that one race had a "natural talent advantage" or whatever against the others, so it would "patently unfair" to merge their competition or whatever nonsense terminology you want to use.

They even disparagingly compared diverse humanity to "dog breeds" to make their point, saying that a chihuahua couldn't fight a Doberman fairly.

This is only an upside-down twi-lit zone if you cling to your bigoted bias.

Just because some boundaries in the past were stupid, and we rightly got rid of them, doesn't mean that all boundaries in all realms must be destroyed. At some point you gotta take the win and get of the progressivism train, or your gonna ride it right off a cliff.

What about the boundary of not having sex with your children? Should we get rid of that "bigoted bias" too?

There are boundaries that should not be destroyed. Fully biological men pushing women out of their sporting accomplishments is one such boundary. If you don't agree its because you have placed an exaggerated sense of fairness over every other standard by which humans determine right and wrong. Your ethics are incredibly simplistic and faulty.

And by the way, no one but a complete sadist would put a Chihuahua in a dog fight against a Doberman. Boundaries are good depending on the circumstance.

If the women would show a backbone this would not happen.

They are embracing being screwed. What a crazy time to live. Society is headed down and down fast.

celery wrote:

What about the boundary of not having sex with your children? Should we get rid of that "bigoted bias" too?

As long as the man identifies as a child he should have the right to have sex with my children. I understand adults cannot have sex with my children, because of some law or something, but child-identified men should have that right at least. Otherwise they might commit suicide or complain about it.

is not like the other.

celery wrote:

Looks fair to me wrote:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DpeodPPU8AUEib6.jpg

The most annoying part is that this guy looks like a pudgy dweeb, not even athletic. If your gonna rob women of their spot on a podium, at least do enough work to look like a real athlete.

Yup, unless looks are really deceiving here, the women in this category must not be that competitive.

but she's not. Read the other article from USA Today.

Basically, it's Masters racing. I.e., non-pros (various open women's cycling events have been won by 40+ age group recently (like Kristin Armstrong), so this is really a niche).

And not everyone has a job/life where you can just take off to go compete in a hobby. Academics it seems are diff'rent.

What was the date when these ideas, actions, morals, and behaviors were able to be expressed without rightful condemnation and scorn from the general public? It happened so fast. When was the breaking point? There have always been fringe lunatic elements. When did our society decide to give into the madness? When did the tail start wagging the dog?

Hitler didn't mind breaking boundaries.

John Utah wrote:

What was the date when these ideas, actions, morals, and behaviors were able to be expressed without rightful condemnation and scorn from the general public? It happened so fast. When was the breaking point? There have always been fringe lunatic elements. When did our society decide to give into the madness? When did the tail start wagging the dog?

I think it was last Thursday at 1:32 pm. Didn't you get the memo?

(Borrowing a joke from Andrew Klavan)

Goes to show you wrote:

If the women would show a backbone this would not happen.

They are embracing being screwed. What a crazy time to live. Society is headed down and down fast.

Women are not showing a backbone because they have always needed, and always will need the patriarchy to protect them. It is us men who are letting them down. Strong and good men created the rule of law, spilled their blood on battlefields throughout history, and worked night and day to create an ordered society to protect women. Women are not up to the challenge of fighting to protect the eternal boundaries and keep the rule of law in place. It always was and always will be men who control these realms.

Us men will watch the world slide into ruin so long as we fail to embrace our immutable role as protecting patriarch.

celery wrote:

It always was and always will be men who control these realms.

180o what women are being indoctrinated with the so-called feminist movement.

Time to take a stand or lay back and take it.

My personal view is that these are all just Participation Trophies anyway, but although Rachel claims 2nd/4th are good friends, the third place lady says UNFAIR.

“I was the 3rd place rider. It’s definitely NOT fair,” Wagner wrote in response to a controversial tweet by commentator Katie Hopkins, who also spoke against the transgender athlete’s participation in female events.

Was it 35-39, or 35-44? wrote:

My personal view is that these are all just Participation Trophies anyway,

but although Rachel claims 2nd/4th are good friends, the third place lady says UNFAIR.

“I was the 3rd place rider. It’s definitely NOT fair,” Wagner wrote in response to a controversial tweet by commentator Katie Hopkins, who also spoke against the transgender athlete’s participation in female events.

3rd place (Jennifer Wagner) claims it's unfair for me to compete. At Masters Worlds, she beat me in the 500m TT. She beat me in 6 of 7 races at the 2017 Intelligentsia Cup. In 2016 she beat me in all 3 Speed Week crits. She's won 11 of our 13 races

Absolutely hilarious. Biological male can't even beat a 35yo+ woman 11/13 of the time, then uses said fact of personal incompetence as a defense against un-fairness?

I find it biologically and statistically improbable that all of these people, born at around the same time, were actually “born in the wrong body.” I find it strange that they think they need hormones and surgery that will sterilize them permanently. What seems obvious to me is that they are uncomfortable with their bodies, suffer from other issues like anxiety and depression, and see the attention and attractiveness of transition as a way out.

Just on a basic probabilistic view, if you believe the "binary" splitting of female/male (i.e. nonfemale) as sports demands, then there's clearly an obvious 50% chance than ANYONE will be either trans or not (cis).

To spell it out,

25% chance male born as female (trans)

25% chance male born as male (cis)

25% chance female born as male (trans)

25% chance female born as female (cis)

Of course, with a wider (brighter) gender spectrum the case analogies are not so enumerable.

So with 50% of the population latently as trans, WHY is it so surprising that "suddenly" a good number of them realize it??