Good for you. What brand did you purchase?
Good for you. What brand did you purchase?
Found a good college game to watch...Wisc.-Iowa. Gus Johnson is my favorite annoucer. The game is so much more exciting when he calls it.
For example, Coach Jeff enjoys tracking data as much as anyone else but recently he discovered that pace was not the best target when training in high heat and humidity.
Fixed it for you.
OR -- Go for the 20-mile race. 70 miles isn't bad. For decades that was (nearly) my daily commute (one way). Still is for my bride. I drove a 120 miles the morning of my last marathon. Worked out just fine.
The new training shoes are a cheap pair of Nikes. Last year's Flex RN. Or some such. Later model of the same low-drop minimalist shoe I have been running in since 2015. I also rotate in a higher drop, more substantial Asics shoe, now that my knees are better. I had to shelve them for a long while, but they're less stressful on my achilles.
outsiderunner wrote:
So, should I run the 20-miler next Sunday with our friend Sub 6:00? I am actually off next weekend, and would probably be looking to go 20+ anyway. It is in the DC area, about a 70-mile drive from here...7:00 am start.
If it fit into my training plan I would be all over that. A 20mi race should provide a good simulation for an upcoming marathon. You can practice your hydration and fueling strategy in a true race environment. Don't race it. Just use it as a marathon pace workout as you see fit.
OR: It's late in the thread to be asking, but if you see this...
I know you enjoy running, but do you enjoy racing?
Enjoy your evening, but if you have the chance, maybe respond even on next week's thread...
This might even be worth a longer discussion at some point.
Coach Jeff. That’s a good question for OR.
Me I love to effing race! Racing every other weekend from sept 29 to dec 1 (4 5ks and 2 HMs) and looking for some December races.
Coach - Wow. What a great question. Stopped me in my tracks. Thinking...
OR - Don’t do it. Judging by that 3 day stretch, I’m worried about getting bumped on prize money if you show up.
Looks like it will be nice and cool next weekend. It would be a good marathon-specific workout. I’m not planning on putting forth quite a race effort (close, maybe 7/8ths in the Lydiard framing).
Coach - The short answer is...probably not. My favorite thing in running is to be manhandling a run (preferably hilly) when no one is watching. In life, I have never liked pressure. A race is just another occasion of pressure, a test. When I know I am in full control, then the pressure lessens...as was the case in the last 10k at Richmond. I was pounding away, just as I would in a training run, and it was pure joy. The last 10k at Shamrock was okay, but when the wind kicked in, and I knew I could not wind it up, the las 4-5 miles were nowhere near as satisfying as the closing miles at Richmond.
Great question, my friend.
Will think some more...
Coach Jeff ROC wrote:
For example, Coach Jeff enjoys tracking data as much as anyone else but recently he discovered that pace was not the best target when training in high heat and humidity.
Fixed it for you.
I think you will find that even in cooler weather chasing after pre-determined pace targets is less than ideal. There will be days that you feel more tired and others where you might exceed expectations. Don’t let yourself be governed by the watch.