1988 Olympic decathlon champ Christian Schenk admits he doped but he'll keep his gold medal

Glow in the Dark levels of PED's wrote:

Those Seoul Games were a circus wrote:

That was a rough Olympics. Most of 100m finalists looked like they had prepared for a bodybuilding contest. The women of the Soviet block nations ran away with most of the medals in the 400m up through 5000m. And there's evidence that this was the first Summer Games where rocket fuel was used. Funny thing though...I was just a naive youngster back then and thought they were all just eating their Wheaties & spinach. ?

Paula Ivan, who didn't get out of the 1500 heats at the previous years World Champs, shows up in 1988 and solos a 3:53 to win gold. What a joke.

Man...you ain't kidding! She beat the 2 Soviets by 7 seconds in an Olympic final! And that time stands currently as 8th all-time fastest! ?

The 88 decathlon is the one where Jurgen Hingssen had 3 false starts in the 100m

Rafer Johnson the 1955 pan am games gold , 56 Oly silver and 60 gold decathlon was pretty big at the time. Not so big anymore is he. Not so young either.

Before Jenner, Bill Toomey bulked up to win the 1968 Olympic decathlon and was open about using steriods; wasn't illegal then. I remember seeing him at indoor track meets back then and was shocked by his 'new' physique (bulked up) and asked and he credited steriods and recommended them.

I wondered if taking them would cause problems in old age but he seems to be doing fine.

Ben and J wrote:

The 88 decathlon is the one where Jurgen Hingssen had 3 false starts in the 100m

I remember that, and couldn't decide whether he, FLoJo or Ben Johnson were the most obvious dopers. Definitely a Pharmacopia of Phreaks in that one.

At the end of the day , if you win 1 round of us open tennis, you make 3 times more than diamond league champ.

It is zero important to understand that juicers are hard workers. I doubt most people believe that its only cheating if done by someone who didn't put in any work yet used PED's. The crime is the use of drugs, not the work ethic.

Daley Thompson. Obviously.

100% east germans and russians = steroids, so forget it.

bruce jenner admittedly was on roids, and everyone else moving forward.

as were the US sprinters in 68 OG. those records were totally fake, altitiude and roids.

eaton, maybe not, but you'd be a fool to trust any athlete,

track and field = PED, or genetic freaks, unless the event is weak, like race walking or something.

longjack wrote:

100% east germans and russians = steroids, so forget it.

bruce jenner admittedly was on roids, and everyone else moving forward.

as were the US sprinters in 68 OG. those records were totally fake, altitiude and roids.

eaton, maybe not, but you'd be a fool to trust any athlete,

track and field = PED, or genetic freaks, unless the event is weak, like race walking or something.

Look up race walking and EPO, you'll be surprised.

but sure willis is probably clean, a bunch of other guys are "clean" but they're doing what" peptides, amino acids, special electryloyes, the paula infustions to fix "health" issues, and on an on.

i say, give them two medals, one for clean and one for what every you want.l

and test them regularly, have the protocols and programs documented, if someone does well, that is useful medical information, if someone has bad effects, that is great medical information.

this way is consistent with human nature to win at all costs, the grand ego to have the legacy and high standing in society as a great somebody, and also these egotists contribute to science and medicine was willing guinea pigs.

guys like brojos need to grow up and look at the reality of the situation.

they're doing good, but they got to push a workable program.

now if you want to do sport at a high level, you got big brother up your arse and 24 /7 monitoring, like a person on probabion.

that's the brojo formula, 1984, no ifs ands and buts.

You are the #1 doping apologist on this site!

If you are interested in non PED Olympics, simply start your own "natural" Olympics. They have that in body building. Nobody cares about Mr. Natural in bodybuilding BTW. They hold the event, but people only care about the roided up body building..

Did someone forgot to test the samples at Seoul? wrote:

Glow in the Dark levels of PED's wrote:

Paula Ivan, who didn't get out of the 1500 heats at the previous years World Champs, shows up in 1988 and solos a 3:53 to win gold. What a joke.

Man...you ain't kidding! She beat the 2 Soviets by 7 seconds in an Olympic final! And that time stands currently as 8th all-time fastest! ?

Probably the cold war cocktail (roids + infusion), definitely the roids going by the stability of form and the quad/glute strength. Look how Mary Decker was dropped?

Steen should have the gold and Daley the silver!

To start with, I would remove Jens Peter-Herold's bronze in the 1500m in 1988 and give it to fourth place finisher Steve Cram, who obviously ran a poor tactical race but still deserves the bronze.

I would strip Dieter Baumann of West Germany (later tested positive) of his silver in the 5000m in 1988 and strip East Germany's Hans-Joerg Kunze of the bronze medal. Domingos Castro of Portugal would get the silver and Sydney Maree the bronze. I'd ask here whether Castro was blood-doping, given the prevalence of that in Portugal and Spain, however.

I'll stand pat on the 10000m with gold for Boutayeb and Antibo even though I suspect both.

There are about two dozen other medals I'd transfer out of the Eastern Bloc, but specifically in the decathlon from Schenk and Voss to gold for Steen, silver for Daley Thompson, and bronze for Christian Plaziat.

Hardly anyone in the field events was clean. The sprints were also filthy because the Americans finally realized they could not compete with the East Germans and go on their own doping program.

I am not a rich person but would pay $500 to $1000 if I could to know who was a clean performer and who wasn't. I am more of a middle distance and distance fan, but am curious all the way down to the 100 m. Just what is the human body capable of?

I really wonder how far under 10 seconds a person has gone. My event was the 800 m. I know a 49 high guy can run around 1:50 clean. Where did the faster guys really end up?

I don't believe El Gerrouj was clean, but again, what was the record? Is this the point where speed of sturdier non-e. Africans can outweigh the tiny frames of the E. Africans?

The longer distances are perhaps the most intriguing question marks when EPO's effects are considered. I don't even want to hazard a guess at how far under 13 man can go in the 5 km. I literally have very little idea.

I wish so much that I had this information but have been robbed of it. I hate to say it but there are some things in the sport that I love that I have trouble watching because it may just be fiction.

Dan but he did not go.