27 years old. Diagnosed with rare form of lung cancer

Bingo ... wrote:

Whether you believe this or not, one thing is certain. When they tell you that you're dying and there's very little hope for you, then you need to GET THE HECK OUT OF THERE, because your chances are always better at that point by doing something else, by cleansing your body and getting healthy, than by continuing to let them do what they've been doing to you.

Plus 4 people I know wrote:

Um, ever heard of Lance Armstrong?

Armstrong got away from them, and he didn't go back - which is what he said to do.

I know someone who had it worse then Armstrong, refused all the treatments, and is quite healthy and active decades later.

Which proves the point`, wrote:

Bingo ... wrote:

Whether you believe this or not, one thing is certain. When they tell you that you're dying and there's very little hope for you, then you need to GET THE HECK OUT OF THERE, because your chances are always better at that point by doing something else, by cleansing your body and getting healthy, than by continuing to let them do what they've been doing to you.

Plus 4 people I know wrote:

Um, ever heard of Lance Armstrong?

Armstrong got away from them, and he didn't go back - which is what he said to do.

I know someone who had it worse then Armstrong, refused all the treatments, and is quite healthy and active decades later.

Um, stop making up stuff.

Why are all of these miracle cases even going to doctors in the first place?

It seems like you've had a few legitamate responses and the rest are some quacks on LetsRun (what a surprise).

I want to start with I'm sorry for anything you feel is wrong. I wish there is more that could be done.

That being said,

I actually work in this field, I am a pediatric oncologist, and what I will tell you is, from your own story, your chances of long-term survival are probably pretty bleak. There is a ton of research in oncology, but any one patient's chances of being accepted into a trial are pretty slim and the research may be no better than conventional therapy. I would follow your doctor's advice as closely as possible and always ask them why and if there is anything else that can be done. That is all anyone on this Forum should tell you with regards to your medical outlook and therapy.

But as for your personal life, here is what I'll tell you, and it's the same thing I tell my patients and their families, you need to think about the things that are the most important to you and the things you aren't willing to give up. These things can change on any given day and they don't need to stay the same from now to your death, but you need to be aware of them, and you need to make everyone around you aware of them. If your physician isn't willing to help you achieve this, find a new physician who will. We are starting to find that people who maintain goals throughout their cancer therapy report increased happiness and fulfillment even in the case of imminent death. What this means for you, I don't know, only your medical team and you know that. I do suspect that running is going to become increasingly difficult, just like most things in life, but if you need to run to be alive, do it for as long as you can.

This isn't the time to stop doing something because it might hurt you, this is the time to start doing the things that might save you.

I'm sorry if this is a circuitous answer, but I cannot, nor will I provide pure medical advice on here, it would be wreckless. I can only wish you the best and tell you that from here until the end, you need to live for yourself.

Warmest regards.

Lance gets checked up all the time wrote:

Um, stop making up stuff.

I'll leave that up to you.

Why are all of these miracle cases even going to doctors in the first place?

Apparently to get good information, but fortunately found the truth and quickly got away from them.

Arealdoctor wrote:

I actually work in this field, I am a pediatric oncologist, and what I will tell you is, from your own story, your chances of long-term survival are probably pretty bleak.

I would follow your doctor's advice as closely as possible

Apparently we all agree his chances are bleak with conventional methods. Then you say to keep

taking that advice??? NO!!! He only gives that advice because he profits regardless what happens to you.

The correct answer is to STOP taking that bad advice.

This is a very simple issue. Conventional toxic treatments are most likely to kill you very quickly.

The best chance of survival is to STOP using them, to focus on cleansing the toxins from your body, getting healthy

and being active again. This is the best chance for living a long happy life, not by loading up with toxic medications.

I don't typically debate with people on LetsRun, but in this case, this is actually important. I did not give the OP any advice concerning which therapy they should use, I simply stated that they should continue to follow their doctor's advice and seek their help so long as they are willing to facilitate their best life. I won't argue the merits of traditional therapy against alternative therapies. There is a preponderance of evidence that they most efficacious route is to follow traditional medical therapy until it is clear that it is no longer effective, and then it is likely that increased use of alternative therapies and cessation /reduction of traditional therapies extend lifespan. This however, is a spectrum that we are not aware of where the OP falls. Only they and their medical team are aware of this. However, that is neither here nor there. What I did say is that the OP needs to pay special attention to their non-medical needs. Let's not state anything else about which therapies are best for this patient as we don't know. Additionally, as someone else has noted, the OP's 5-year survival rate is slim, and ultimately time may or may not matter to the OP. So we likely shouldn't purport that certain therapies extend lifespan by one billion years.

Arealdoctor wrote:

It seems like you've had a few legitamate responses and the rest are some quacks on LetsRun (what a surprise).

I actually work in this field, I am a pediatric oncologist

You complain about quacks -- then you admit you're a quack.

Arealdoctor wrote:

There is a preponderance of evidence that they most efficacious route is to follow traditional medical therapy

That's a LIE and it's totally false.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Anyone thinking of not seeking traditional medical care should read this:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaoncology/article-abstract/2687972?utm_source=twitter&amp%3butm_medium=social_jamaonc&amp%3butm_term=1677834376&amp%3butm_content=followers-article_engagement-visual_abstract&amp%3butm_campaign=article_alert&amp%3blinkId=54477782

Your message translated:

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

I should be ashamed of myself but here goes.

Anyone thinking of not seeking traditional medical care please read this medical propaganda.

It won't do you any good and it's a bunch of lies, but I wanted to post it anyway because that's what I do.

Whatever buddy.

Here's what you meant to say. wrote:

Your message translated:

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

I should be ashamed of myself but here goes.

Anyone thinking of not seeking traditional medical care please read this medical propaganda.

It won't do you any good and it's a bunch of lies, but I wanted to post it anyway because that's what I do.

please go back to Facebook, maybe you can find an MLM to help you get started peddling holistic treatments

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Anyone thinking of not seeking traditional medical care should read this:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaoncology/article-abstract/2687972?utm_source=twitter&amp%3butm_medium=social_jamaonc&amp%3butm_term=1677834376&amp%3butm_content=followers-article_engagement-visual_abstract&amp%3butm_campaign=article_alert&amp%3blinkId=54477782

Did you check and see if the study was industry-funded? Pulling up the abstract you linked is an add for "KeyTruda" - a cancer-immunotherapy drug. I wouldn't be surprised if Merck contributed funding for this study. JAMA also recieves $$$ from the pharma industry. And industry-funded studies have a publication bias - I would have thought a man of your intellect would know this. In fact, most of medical journals are polluted with industry-funded studies! The area of medical research is highly corrupted and becoming untrustworthy:

OTOH, vitamins, minerals, herbs, etc. are continually condemned by the medical cartel:

The JR is strong in this thread.

So I decided to go for a run with my wife this evening. It’s the first time I’ve tried to exercise since the chemo last week. I ended up going 4 miles at about 9:15 pace, I wasn’t pushing but I don’t know if I could’ve gone much faster comfortably today. The chemo definitely drained me over the weekend but I’m feeling much more like myself today and was able to work a full day from home. As I’ve stated I’m hopeful that I won’t have to do another round of chemo at least for several years but if I do I think I’ll be fine. On a side note my wife has cut animal protein out of my diet and it’s beena struggle, so if anybody has any recommendations on good vegan recipes, that would be much more appreciated than any science journals, at least for now.

Good job. I had six rounds of chemo every three weeks so at the conclusion 100 meters at a time was difficult. Two months later back to similar volume before treatment. What worked for me was walking and running. No recipes however.

That’s great OP, well done. What type of cancer do you have? I may have missed it in the thread somewhere but you posted you were still waiting on the biopsy results. If your getting chemo I guess those results are back now. Hopefully with some good news, not that any cancer diagnosis is good news but some are worse than others.

I went meatless for two incredibly long weeks tonsee if I could.

This is going to sound nuts, but in a pinch Chipotle makes a pretty solid tempeh - tastes like their chicken.

My wife also says this hummusapien website is a really good resource, and theses were three of the better recipes from that stretch:

https://www.hummusapien.com/vegan-mac-cheese/

https://www.delishknowledge.com/eggplant-lentil-bolognese/

https://www.hummusapien.com/thai-quinoa-fried-rice/

Animal proteins are bad news if you have cancer. This new research shows that cancer cells proliferate from amino acids and not glucose as originally thought.