How big of a school 9-11? Must be pretty big
How big of a school 9-11? Must be pretty big
Hsbandy wrote:
timtam wrote:
The top 7 always a big issue with the coming HS XC season. Here is mine from a different perspective with their track PR's. Track events are over 800/1600/5k
Runner 1 1:54/4:07/9:09 senior
Runner 2 1:55/4:18 junior
Runner 3 4:37/9:48/16:07 Sophmore
Runner 4 4:48/9:33 Senior
Runner 5 4:38/10:10 Junior
Runner 6 4:37/ 10:010 Freshman
Runner 7 4:41/10:12 Junior
Thoughts?
Here we go again with using track times for XC. Tell me their 5k times and the courses and I’ll tell you your fate.
I agree on the track times issue, but my boys had a lot of big breakthroughs/PRs during track. Curious if my boys could contend:
1:56/4:19/9:18 SR
2:00/4:31/9:47 JR
2:02/4:38/10:07 JR
2:01/4:39/10:13 SR
2:04/4:58/10:29 JR
1:56/4:48/xx SR
2:07/5:00/xx SO
Enrollment: 3200-ish
Great times by your athletes.
http://www.hokaoneonepostalnationals.com/
It would be interesting. Especially in today's age of technology.
Good luck on your season.
By the way my athletes only run 20-40 miles a week. Just have a talented group of athletes I guess.
Your typing and grammar kind of reminds me of, well, a high school student. You wouldn't happen to be one of these athletes, would you?
Not a coach but runner. When my team won states I believe we had something along the following for track PRs the season before. Some are actual times I found others are best guesses
1: 4:17/9:15
2: 4:28/9:33
3: 1:56/4:26/9:37
4: 1:59/4:28/9:45
5: 2:15/5:00/10:38. More of cross runner
6: Did not run Outdoor.
7: 2:02
This team went on to make NXN and coasted through every meet of cross season easy. 6 of these 7 now run collegiality. 4 D1 and 2 D2. The last could have ran for a lower tier D1 school but chose the best academically oriented school
this team got a lot better during this cross season so as for your team you have the tools to put together a championship caliber team
I am really curious as to which school. Please provide. the times are all online anyway. That 5th runner would kill you at NXR, probably 200th. More of a cross runner would put him at 17 minutes at best. And only one of those guys has a time fast enough to run D1 so that seems exaggerated also
GoatKing wrote:
Not a coach but runner. When my team won states I believe we had something along the following for track PRs the season before. Some are actual times I found others are best guesses
1: 4:17/9:15
2: 4:28/9:33
3: 1:56/4:26/9:37
4: 1:59/4:28/9:45
5: 2:15/5:00/10:38. More of cross runner
6: Did not run Outdoor.
7: 2:02
This team went on to make NXN and coasted through every meet of cross season easy. 6 of these 7 now run collegiality. 4 D1 and 2 D2. The last could have ran for a lower tier D1 school but chose the best academically oriented school
this team got a lot better during this cross season so as for your team you have the tools to put together a championship caliber team
That is a strong team that we probably couldn't compete. We are racing a 5k this weekend here in the middle of winter. Not a particularly fast course but a good test for us. Nat'l's in 5 1/2 weeks.
Hopefully this thread has got coaches thinking of what is possible with a good group of runners who work hard.
timtam wrote:
The top 7 always a big issue with the coming HS XC season. Here is mine from a different perspective with their track PR's. Track events are over 800/1600/5k
Runner 1 1:54/4:07/9:09 senior
Runner 2 1:55/4:18 junior
Runner 3 4:37/9:48/16:07 Sophmore
Runner 4 4:48/9:33 Senior
Runner 5 4:38/10:10 Junior
Runner 6 4:37/ 10:010 Freshman
Runner 7 4:41/10:12 Junior
Thoughts?
If you are the head coach and you're on Letsrun asking this question = they have zero chance at winning the state title.
totally serious.
honest injun wrote:
Slo Farah wrote:
Kid probably runs a 2:25 800m too, right?
2:25/4:48/9:33 (on pure hate)
We had a kid a few years ago who ran 4:48 all season (except for 4:40 once) and then at regionals, ran on pure hate and busted out a 9:38 to qualify for states. Of course he bombed at states and didn't break 10 by much but it was legendary,
Texas HS Coach wrote:
It's a state team but not a podium team.
My first thought was how does someone run 438 933?
I was 4:40/9:17 (imperial) as a hs school junior.
Sorry again his best is actually 4:28/9:33 the real issue is that he did this off 25-30 miles a week at most. I only coach my group 4 times per week and rely on them to do what they need to do on easy days.
Will give 5k feedback after this weekend. Should be interesting!
Runner #1: 4:25/9:29/15:45XC
Runner #2: 4:31
Runner #3: 4:37 but sub 16 5k (didn’t do outdoor)
Runner #4: 5:35
Runner #5: Slower than 5:45
Pretty fast 8th graders and freshman who should be #4 and #5 but no results.
Longest 1-5 split in the country wrote:
Runner #1: 4:25/9:29/15:45XC
Runner #2: 4:31
Runner #3: 4:37 but sub 16 5k (didn’t do outdoor)
Runner #4: 5:35
Runner #5: Slower than 5:45
Pretty fast 8th graders and freshman who should be #4 and #5 but no results.
Now that is an interesting dilemma! In coaching young athletes how with differing abilities do you modify the sessions?
coahc wrote:
Longest 1-5 split in the country wrote:
Runner #1: 4:25/9:29/15:45XC
Runner #2: 4:31
Runner #3: 4:37 but sub 16 5k (didn’t do outdoor)
Runner #4: 5:35
Runner #5: Slower than 5:45
Pretty fast 8th graders and freshman who should be #4 and #5 but no results.
Now that is an interesting dilemma! In coaching young athletes how with differing abilities do you modify the sessions?
I’ll ask the top runners to invite the #4 and #5 to run the first couple of intervals with them (the top runners aren’t accommodating by slowing down themselves) to help bridge the gap.
What we'll typically do is have the slower group go 10-20 seconds before the faster guys. Then release the faster 1-3 runners to try and catch the slower guys before the interval is over. Faster guys have an objective to chase and when they eventually catch the slower group those guys typically will go with the faster guys for a bit at the end. Everyone finishes an interval together instead of the slower guys getting dropped, builds some comrade as the slow guys feel like they're helping push the faster guys at the end.
timtam wrote:
The top 7 always a big issue with the coming HS XC season. Here is mine from a different perspective with their track PR's. Track events are over 800/1600/5k
Runner 1 1:54/4:07/9:09 senior
Runner 2 1:55/4:18 junior
Runner 3 4:37/9:48/16:07 Sophmore
Runner 4 4:48/9:33 Senior
Runner 5 4:38/10:10 Junior
Runner 6 4:37/ 10:010 Freshman
Runner 7 4:41/10:12 Junior
Thoughts?
9:09, 9:48, 9:33, 10:10, 10:01, and 10:12 for 5k are all really good. Might just be a bit better than the Kenyan All-Star team.
NXN wants to know wrote:
I am really curious as to which school. Please provide. the times are all online anyway. That 5th runner would kill you at NXR, probably 200th. More of a cross runner would put him at 17 minutes at best. And only one of those guys has a time fast enough to run D1 so that seems exaggerated also
The times are from the prior year, which means the runners were 9th, 10th, and/or 11th graders.