Sub-9 coaches

Timo Mostert had three sub-9 guys two seasons back (giving Patrick Parker an altitude conversion).

Beyond that year, with altitude conversions, he’s got a pretty consistent track record of producing those kinds of athletes (McMillan, Jacklin, etc).

Ironically, I don't believe Joe Newton and York HS have that many. Sage ('00), Cracker ('74), Bakken ('96 or '97?) come to mind. I don't remember Mcnamara, or any runner since Sage going sub-9:00, but I wasn't around in the 70's and 80's to speak to those teams. Speaks again to the success of York being their depth, not their top performers.

Loudoun Valley had 2 (3200m)this year, plus Drew Hunter a couple years ago. Drew’s younger brother, Jacob, may have a shot at 9:00 this year.

Aris @ FM had Nick Ryan run 8;55 for 3200, Thomas Gruenewald run 8;58 for 2 mile, and Alex Hats run 8;21 for 3 kilometers​

Utahn wrote:

Timo Mostert had three sub-9 guys two seasons back (giving Patrick Parker an altitude conversion).

Beyond that year, with altitude conversions, he’s got a pretty consistent track record of producing those kinds of athletes (McMillan, Jacklin, etc).

Now altitude conversions count as sub-9s.

If we are using conversions, I've coached about 50 kids to a sub-9 when you factor in the bad-DNA-conversion, the dehydration-conversion, the didn't-train-that-hard-conversion, etc.

Parker either went sub 9 or he didn't.

yeah... except altitude conversion is a real thing.

moran...

you mad bro?

Walt Lange- Jesuit, CA has coached at least 5.

dumb examples wrote:

yeah... except altitude conversion is a real thing.

moran...

you mad bro?

There are those who think a 3:41 1500 means you've run a sub-4 mile. Then there are those who think you actually need to run a sub-4 mile to have run a sub-4 mile.

If you can believe a man who wed 40+ wives only did so because an Angel repeated told him he had to then I could see how you'd think 9:04.51 < 9:00.00

I was hoping someone could help with this question. I think Tyson had over 10 in his career.

What about the Hammond, Indiana coach who produced 3 sub 9 minute 2 milers in the mid 70s

Sonofacoach wrote:

Jon Knight, who coaches North Central Spokane had 5 runners from 2010-2016 run under 9:00 for 3200 m

And then they got busted for recruiting.

Avery has at least 6. I guess you get what you pay for.

Wow, 9:03 and change doesn't put you in the top 10. That's unreal.

notquiteacoach wrote:

I was hoping someone could help with this question. I think Tyson had over 10 in his career.

Lewis, Mi. Davis, Detray, Je. Fayant (8:20 3k at Centennial), Garber, and Barnes.

Who am I missing?

He doesn’t get credit for Gardner as he was gone by then.

Clearly Matt Davis would have had he run his senior spring. Jason Fayant ran 9:03 and Morgan Thompson ran 9:05 I believe.

MoreTrackPlz wrote:

How many did Tyson have at Mead?

How did Newton have?

Newton's best

Top five York distance runners.

*Marius Bakken, 1995 Class AA cross-country fourth-place finisher, two-time Olympic qualifier for home country of Norway. (Does not count because he was only there one year and he was not an American).

*Ron Craker, 1975 cross-country champion, ran at Indiana, holds program's sixth-best time in 3,000-meter steeplechase. I believe he ran 8:53y in 1976.

*Sean McNamara, 2004 Class AA cross-country champion, running his redshirt senior season at Michigan, sixth in the Big Ten cross-country championships in 2008. Don't know if he broke 9:00, even for 3200m.

*Donald Sage, 1999 Class AA cross-country champion, ran a 4:00.29 mile in high school, two-time NCAA track champion -- in 1,500 meters and distance medley relay -- at Stanford, 10-time All-American. He ran in the 8:40s indoors and out for the 2-mile. Not many HSers can say that. Not even Ritz.

*Jim White, 1984 Class AA cross-country champ, two-time All-American at Indiana, Hoosiers' indoor 1,000-yard record holder. Was at 4:08y I think. Don't know if he ever broke 9:00. Was more of an 880/Mile guy.

Seems like Tyson had 4 at least? But is this sub-9 for 2-miles or 3200m?

Marauder44 wrote:

Walt Lange- Jesuit, CA has coached at least 5.

There is an all-time list on page one of this thread and it is confirmed that Lange coached ALL of these sub-9 guys. So the current MAX for one coach (not one HS) is SIX under 9:00 for 3200m.

I forgot about Kurdy.

I don't post about myself

At this point in the thread are a few names that I even think I should know. Almost every name listed did not do anything post-high school in context with having run a HS sub 9. Maybe kids are better off to come from programs that do not try to milk every ounce of talent from them in their teens?