Jama Aden Update-Could get 4.5 years in prison, prosecutors say they found different types of EPO preloaded in syringes

SB wrote:

You're right. Let's not consider banning ANYBODY behind this. Aden could plausibly have been taking all that EPO, etc., himself, or selling it by the shot to tourists on the street. It's not like he was the coach/agent of world beating athletes or anything. Why should we ever think this stuff ended up in the bodies of athletes? Nothing to see here, folks.

It's nothing anyway. World-class statistician Rekrunner has performed detailed high level statistical analyses on these boards showing that EPO has had no effect on performance over the decades. In addition, world-class physiologist Canovi has studied endless elite distance runners in great detail and has demonstrated that EPO in fact slows down optimally trained world class athletes by blocking the capillaries and slowing down oxygen delivery to the brain and muscles. So maybe Aden was in fact being sporting and was trying to slow down his runners by giving them EPO as they were running too fast for good competition, like the way horses are handicapped in races.

TipOIcebergstein wrote:

This is the tip of the iceberg. Period. Sure, E. Africans are talented, but the sport has been wrecked by greedy pigs who were then aided by nation wreckers who see sports as a way to condition the masses. Laugh now, but it's all connected. The Rosas, Hermens, many others and those that have been paying off officials for decades should all be dumped on a remote island. Then that island should be used for target practice by various naval vessels.

Sadly though nothing is being done. Aden might be taken to court but despite finding a huge arsenal of PEDs on his training group 2 years ago, no one in his training group had any sort of punishment. They were all allowed to compete as they wanted when anyone serious about fighting doping in sports would have banned them all until at least the main questions were answered. This just suggests continued endemic corruption in the sports governing bodies.

Very soon a certain gentleman beginning with R will be on here to deny anything that occurred in Sabadell two years ago because nobody failed a test. He will also claim that that they were only injecting vitamins.

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As someone who knew Jama 30 years ago this is very sad..... had the privilege of training with him for a year and he was a great mentor. Now when you get paid lots to produce results, maybe what you do and believe is skewed to a terrible degree.

I didn't grow up in Somalia, I didn't have to sleep on couches and struggle to make ends meet. I never saw what he saw.

As a coach prescribing drugs is the last thing anyone should ever do. But we don't walk in his shoes, we all really don't know his journey.

If you knew Jama back in the day you would feel sad about this story.

I will never condone what he has done but I will always have good memories of my friend Jama.

So what is the update? - The prosecution is asking for 4.5 years of prison, which is apparently the maximum - The trial hasn't even started ?!??!? For being caught red-handed, this sure is taking a long time...

LetsRun.com wrote:

June 20th will be the 2 year anniversary of when hotel rooms linked to coach Jama Aden were raided in Sabadell Spain and EPO and other performance enhancing drugs reportedly found. Aden coached Genzebe Dibaba, Abubaker Kaki , Ayanley Souleiman and others.

2 years later, Aden still had not gone to Trial and no athletes have been sanctioned because of the raid.

El Pais in Spain has an update and says while a trial date has still not been set, Aden could get 4.5 years in prison and be banned from coaching.

From google translate of the article below, "In the room number 123 they found different types of EPO in vials and in 19 syringes preloaded and ready to be used. "

update on Aden's case:

I don't see the need to repeat where the facts end, and where assumptions start, in this lengthy process with very few new details being made public.

Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:

Very soon a certain gentleman beginning with R will be on here to deny anything that occurred in Sabadell two years ago because nobody failed a test. He will also claim that that they were only injecting vitamins.

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rekrunner wrote:

I don't see the need to repeat where the facts end, and where assumptions start, in this lengthy process with very few new details being made public.

Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:

Very soon a certain gentleman beginning with R will be on here to deny anything that occurred in Sabadell two years ago because nobody failed a test. He will also claim that that they were only injecting vitamins.

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Well that is largely due to the fact that prosecutors appear to be building the strongest case possible. You need to remember that the Spanish take two hours off in the middle of the day, so things take time there. And here you are thinking it was all over. I'm pretty sure all EU members have extradition arrangements, so if he is indicted and does a no show, he can never again set foot in Europe, which makes him worthless as an international coach.

I only used one letter, R and you jumped in. You really are defensive about this incident but it is the one where you're playing the weakest hand my friend.

Using just one letter was not very subtle, although you mischaracterized what I ever said, so maybe I was being too presumptuous. Did I make a mistake and you actually meant someone else? Look, I'm not defensive of anything more than what details have been made public, which seem to be not that many after a fairly long time. I didn't think it was all over, and I'm not playing with any hand, but I'm still waiting for someone to show their strong hand.

Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:

Well that is largely due to the fact that prosecutors appear to be building the strongest case possible. You need to remember that the Spanish take two hours off in the middle of the day, so things take time there. And here you are thinking it was all over. I'm pretty sure all EU members have extradition arrangements, so if he is indicted and does a no show, he can never again set foot in Europe, which makes him worthless as an international coach.

I only used one letter, R and you jumped in. You really are defensive about this incident but it is the one where you're playing the weakest hand my friend.

Right. No need. Google can easily find your "facts":

CDA wrote:

On the outside looking in wrote:

He didn't fool anyone. Lol.

As someone that speaks Spanish, Catalan is very similar and could easily be confused with Spanish by someone who has not studied Spanish for a while.

Catalan is no more similar to spanish than is italian.

This is normal in spain. The judiciary is poorly funded and understaffed and cases take a long time to be processed. The corruption case that beought the government down this week was a decade old.

I don't understand why Mueller is not mentioned in the article.

back woods wrote:

rekrunner wrote:

So what is the update?

- The prosecution is asking for 4.5 years of prison, which is apparently the maximum

- The trial hasn't even started ?!??!?

For being caught red-handed, this sure is taking a long time...

This is normal in spain. The judiciary is poorly funded and understaffed and cases take a long time to be processed. The corruption case that beought the government down this week was a decade old.

Did they ever do anything with those bags of blood from the Fuentes case, where Fuentes himself offered to identify all of them? That was at least five years ago.

The Spanish court put the kibosh on identifying the names linked to the BBs. That's too bad - I was dying to know what runners were involved. Now we can only speculate.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/spanish-court-stops-identification-of-operacion-puerto-athletes/

Ion power^4 wrote:

I'd Aden goes to trial, don't be shocked if he comes clean on ALL the goods for a lesser sentence. It goes so much deeper.

Also don't be shocked if nothing happens at all.

Is anyone asking why in that photo there are two senior UK coaches and a UK middle distance runner? They must have been in Aden's training camp to study his advanced training techniques, nothing more than that of course.

LetsRun.com wrote:

2 years later, Aden still had not gone to Trial and no athletes have been sanctioned because of the raid.

El Pais in Spain has an update and says while a trial date has still not been set, Aden could get 4.5 years in prison and be banned from coaching.

Summing up, no one has been charged, because nothing was found.

However, breaking news, if something had been found, and if they had been charged, and if there had been a trial and they had been convicted, then they could get 4.5 years in prison.

On to other news, if the Brojos had been convicted of shooting President Lincoln, they could also end up in prison.

CDA wrote:

On the outside looking in wrote:

He didn't fool anyone. Lol.

As someone that speaks Spanish, Catalan is very similar and could easily be confused with Spanish by someone who has not studied Spanish for a while.

Excuses

Spanish Armada wrote:

The Spanish court put the kibosh on identifying the names linked to the BBs.

Naturally. The Provincial Court of Madrid had to protect a certain soccer club as well as the national team.