Rupp thoughts on pre

Rupp definitely did NOT write any of that. He may have approved what someone else wrote; but that certainly isn't anything that came from his pen.

Is it really that hard to hit the shift key and use some capitalization?

runnergrl wrote:

Pre was awesome. But lets be honest the way he trained is so much different than they way elites train in 2018. There is no way you could be world class in 2018 if you trained like you did in 1974. And if you think Rupp does not have a little bit of pre spirit watch the Prague marathon and see him bust up a 2:04 guy on a hill.

No one can say that if "speed tape" had been available in 1972 that Pre would not have used it. That's just nonsense. Nike, technology, and Oregon were not what they are today.

There is no way that article was written in any manner by Rupp. The last link is to Rupp's instagram, if you go there it is very obviously run by a publicist or something like that. Just a marketing type images and nothing else.

I am still a Rupp fan.

Schiklgruber... wrote:

Pre held every AR from 2000 to 10000 meters. Rupp left out a couple.

Do people not get how stupid it sounds to say this? Nobody contests 2000m. It's false anyway - USATF says he had 4 records: 2 miles, 3 miles, 5000, 10000. No 2000, no 3000, no steeple.

Take out the bogus imperial distances and he held exactly two records, just like a lot of people have.

I'm a Rupp fan, too. But I'm also a fan of Camille Paglia, and I can't help but wonder what the author of SEXUAL PERSONAE would have to say about the Pre/Rupp dyad.

To be blunt--and I speak here as a straight male--Pre was sexy. He had sex appeal. It was a particular kind of early/mid 70s thing that those of us who were young men in those years recognize. He was a countercultural hero who carried his masculinity and sexuality easily, but palpably. Guys sensed it, and respected him for it; women KNEW those things were there. He had what David Deida calls a masculine sense of purpose, and he had it in spades. (I'm remembering the film PRE: "Pre had it. He had more of it than anybody else.")

I have no intention of pronouncing on Rupp's sexuality per se, but it's not unreasonable to note that the sexual PERSONA that Rupp projects could not be further from the sexual persona that Pre projected. Pre's persona, shaped by his masculine sense of purpose, was significantly shaped by the degree to which, like a wild bronco, he resisted the strong father that was Coach Bowerman. Again, the films play this up, because it was an essential part of his character. Pre as bucking bronco: a strong, forceful young male who could barely be tamed. A cowboy of sorts. AND a free thinker who spoke his mind.

Rupp? His public character, the masculine persona he embodies, is almost entirely shaped by his willingness to wholly submit his masculinity and sense of purpose to Alberto. There's no bucking bronco in Rupp. Period. He submits; he's quiet and well behaved. He's the good son. Pre was the prodigal son.

This is why it's fascinating to see Nike, and Rupp, and Rupp's publicist(s), try to suture Rupp into Pre's universe. It just doesn't work. It's a game try. But the mythological undercurrents and the sexual personae that drive them just don't align.

What an odd thing to say b

Let’s be honest. A large part of thr Pre aura is that he died young. Possibly from drinking. Hardly cool or rebellious.

But even Pre in his heyday had “haters”. And have no doubt that if the message board and the like were around for the 72 Olys. You have hade more than one “Pre goes home devastated” thread with people being critical of his race plan.

He did have an appeal that most modern runners just don’t have not just Rupp. And when modern runners do have personality it seems either forced or they are just trying to sell me something.

I found the piece interesting. I have no doubt Rupp genuinely knows Pre’s history better than a lot of other runners do.

If Rupp, or the person who wrote this, thinks Bowerman was Pre’s coach, he doesn’t know much about Pre or U of O history.

This is true. Being famous and dying young seems to elevate ones status to super legend.

They never said that. They only said he was influenced by him.

This terrible fluff piece is clearly a Nike marketing department response to the “Rupp hard to like” article. Ironically, this lame attempt to link Rupp to Pre further proves Rupp is a Nike bubble boy and the nothing like the carasmatic Pre.

Rupp is an awesome runner though, but without a team of doctors, grey area science, questionable TUE exemptions, athsma meds, and hormone shots he’d be nothing.

Madonna with meatballs wrote:

I always love seeing that chick holding the tape at the ‘75 California relays. So hot

this is what they need to bring back to make track popular.... like fr imagine people like her at all meets holding a finish line, just as a bit of a reason track was popular back then id say haha

funny how everyone is till looking at Pre and not her though, also if we had track officials like back then too

Yo that’s fake wrote:

This terrible fluff piece is clearly a Nike marketing department response to the “Rupp hard to like” article. Ironically, this lame attempt to link Rupp to Pre further proves Rupp is a Nike bubble boy and the nothing like the carasmatic Pre.

Rupp is an awesome runner though, but without a team of doctors, grey area science, questionable TUE exemptions, athsma meds, and hormone shots he’d be nothing.

13:37 in HS alls you need to know.....

Not even close wrote:

Rupp definitely did NOT write any of that. He may have approved what someone else wrote; but that certainly isn't anything that came from his pen.

Totally disagree. Have you ever seen Rupp speak on TV, at meets or in short interviews? His comments on Pre's photos align with his TV personality appearances and interviews.

He certainly has time to look at a few photos and make his comments, even if he had an editor or PR guy there. Why is it such a big deal anyway?

30:45X-C

Hey Galen why dont you get rid of all the stupid tape and holes in your jersey.

Madonna with meatballs wrote:

I always love seeing that chick holding the tape at the ‘75 California relays. So hot

Anyone know her name? I'll get Jonathan Gault to write up a "Where are they now" Piece. She's probably close to 70 now.

show some skin wrote:

why aren't there more race officials like the one in the california relays, 1975 photo?

My thoughts exactly!

The Gray Zone wrote: Rupp is a better runner than Pre, as well as a better driver.

I can't imagine he has much time for golf.

cheers.

Mojo Jerkin wrote:

round and round wrote:

i really liked the piece too. made rupp seems more human and i like the idea to tie the to eras together and show how influenced rupp was by prefontaine.

rupp is a professional runner. he's a nike athlete. he gets paid well. his job is to do well and perform well and win races and medals. he's really really good at that. probably one of the best US distance runners ever. certainly the fastest

and i'm sure he gets paid well to experiment with the nike gear and technology like those black patches as well.

we'd all take the money if we were in his shoes.

i would rather be Rupp than Pre as a runner.

i'd rather be Pre at a party.

Is it really that hard to hit the shift key and use some capitalization?

i rarely use capitalization in my writing. looks better

lighten up, nerd burglar. you are a total square if that actually bothers you. just let it go