Interesting fact: A Kenyan Woman has never held a major track record

Ffhhjgfd wrote:

And More wrote:

It has been 25 years since a Kenyan man has held a WR at 1500, 5000 or 10000

Not quite. Tergat broke the 10k record in 1997.

Komen 5,000m at the same time.

apparently Tegla Loroupe holds the 20, 25 and 30km track WRs. Kenya also holds the 4 x 1500m WR.

The standard event WRs times are so incredibly doped it's not surprising only a few in the modern era are touchable. Shows you how dodgy Ethiopia is....

Also interesting, American men hold no individual running records currently except the 110m hurdles and the 400m hurdles. This in a supposedly American-dominated sport.

Scorpion_runner wrote:

Kenyans do not focus on the track. They focus on the road. Ethiopians focus on the track, because it is very important in their

country.

This is why Kenyans dominate the road and Ethiopians dominate the track.

But oddly enough, Road and Track Magazine is not popular in either country. Go figure.

Miss Crabapple wrote:

As long as people keep trying to pass off falsehoods as facts...

...in 1953 the USA had the world record in every event between the men's 400m - 10000m.

that might be true of women's records, but I doubt it, since there were no women's world records at events longer than 800m in 1953. it is certainly not true of the men.

in 1953, the WR for 400m was held by George Rhoden of Jamaica. he set it on 22 Aug 1950 and it was broken by Louis Jones of the United States on 18 Mar 1955.

in 1953 the WR for 800m was held by Rudolf Harbig (GER). he set it at 1:46.6 on 15 Jul 1939 and it was not broken until Roger Moens, a Belgian, ran 1:45.7 on 3 Aug 1955.

in 1953, the WR for 1500m was held by Werner Lueg (FRG). he set it at 3:43.0 on 29 Jun 1952 and it was broken by Wes Santee of the United States who ran 3:42.0 en-route to a mile of 4:00.6 at Compton, CA on 4 Jun 1954.

in 1953 the WR for 3,000m was held by Gaston Reiff of Belgium. he ran 7:58.8 on 12 Aug 1949 and this was beaten by Sandor Iharos of Hungary who ran 7:55.6 in Budapest, Hungary on 14 May 1955.

in 1953 the WR for 5,000m was held by Gunder Hagg of Sweden. he ran 13:58.2 in Gothenburg, Sweden on 20 Sep 1942 and this was beaten by Emil Zátopek of Czechoslovakia in Paris on 30 May 1954 when he ran 13:57.2.

Emil Zátopek (TCH) held the WR for 10,000m continuously from 22 Oct 1949 to 15 Jul 1956, improving it in 4 steps from

29:21.2 to 28:54.2. the next holder was Sándor Iharos of Hungary.

no American male has ever held the WR for 3,000m, 5,000m or 10,000m.

cheers.

strykerd wrote:

I'd call the 3000m SC a major track event.

I'd also call it an event that has had no Kenyan woman hold a WR for.

Maybe the intention of Miss Crabapple's introductory sentence ("As long as people keep trying to pass off falsehoods as facts...") was to use the very false "fact" about 1953 as a parallel to the one about Kenyan WRs.

Bob Schul held the 2 mile world record in 64

UCI XC wrote: Maybe the intention of Miss Crabapple's introductory sentence ("As long as people keep trying to pass off falsehoods as facts...") was to use the very false "fact" about 1953 as a parallel to the one about Kenyan WRs.

that's actually a very astute observation, thank you.

Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:

Hilarious, I knew something suspicious was up with Jebet last year. In all the diamond league races she would pass the pacers and run sub 9 by herself. Come London the field dropped her, no sickness, no injury. A week or so later normal service resumes, sub 9min times with ease.

I knew something was up when I learned about two years ago that Jebet was/is married to Nicholas Togom. Togom is the younger brother to Matthew Kipkoech Kisorio who was busted for EPO use and served a two year ban. Anyone associated closely with him and who starts to run fast times out of nowhere has to be treated suspiciously.

A Kenyan woman never held down a full meal either.

Donkey Talking wrote:

Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:

Hilarious, I knew something suspicious was up with Jebet last year. In all the diamond league races she would pass the pacers and run sub 9 by herself. Come London the field dropped her, no sickness, no injury. A week or so later normal service resumes, sub 9min times with ease.

I knew something was up when I learned about two years ago that Jebet was/is married to Nicholas Togom. Togom is the younger brother to Matthew Kipkoech Kisorio who was busted for EPO use and served a two year ban. Anyone associated closely with him and who starts to run fast times out of nowhere has to be treated suspiciously.

Thanks for the info, interesting.

1953 world record holders:

400m George Rhoden

800m Harbig

1500m Werner Lueg

3000m Gaston Reiff

5000m Gunder Hagg

10000m Zatopek

Miss Crabapple, not a single American in that list!

El Keniano wrote:

Also interesting, American men hold no individual running records currently except the 110m hurdles and the 400m hurdles. This in a supposedly American-dominated sport.

It is? No one in my country watches Track and Field nor knows anything about it. We don't even send our B athletes, let alone our A athletes—they are all busy making money in other sports.

No one in my country watches Track and Field nor knows anything about it.

I find it really interesting that you know what everyone in your country watches on tv. are you the CIA?

cheers.

Cottonshirt wrote:

No one in my country watches Track and Field nor knows anything about it.

I find it really interesting that you know what everyone in your country watches on tv. are you the CIA?

cheers.

I know this one. Small brain syndrome. You should probably get that checked out.

No one in my large family, wife's family, people at my work, people at my school, etc, know anything at all about track and field, professional or otherwise. Not only that, none of the track athletes I coach even know anything—even the seniors who have been running for years could maybe name 2 track athletes: probably Usain bolt, then maybe 1 distance runner. It's not on TV. It's not on their phones. It's not on their netflix. It's not on any of their media. To watch a race, you gotta subscribe to some stupid-ass $60 NBC gold garbage, or pay some monthly premium to a hugely mediocre website.

Oh I am sure there are some people around the country who are aware of a bit of whats going on. Definitely

okay, so the guy who thinks he is an authority on the television watching habits of an entire population of folk he has never met and knows nothing about, is now offering free, unsolicited medical diagnoses online.

and you think I'm the one with problems.

I wouldn't worry about that. hardly anyone on LetsRun knows anything about track and field either. there was guy on here the other day claimed that Al Oerter had won four olympic gold medals at the shot putt. a guy runs a marathon in a time that is 2% less than the world record, and they criticise him for not running faster. compared to you, these folk are ignorant dullards.

okay, you don't actually mean they know literally nothing at all, you just mean they don't know as much as you. which is reasonable. hardly anyone knows as much as you. my dad used to do this. his favourite expression was: "you know nothing about nothing," which may even have been true, but it doesn't help very much.

thank you.

interesting choice of adjectives. I hadn't realised that "mediocre" was a gradable property.

maybe I should just get NetFlix instead. what do you think?

cheers.