Loudoun Valley to try and triple relay at Nationals.

Brentwood: 3:02.5/51/1:53.5/4:09

LV: 3:00/51/1:56/4:13

Brentwoods leadoff is a 1:52/4:08 guy, surprised he lost the leg. The anchors went out really slow, 2:08ish.

Hasty could have easily gotten the national record if he pushed it. Outdoors 2:58/50/1:52/4:00 = 9:40? very doable for them

You're welcome

Great race all around. Pretty much a 4 team race from the start. Northport NY, StAnthonys also Long Island NY, Brentwood and Loudon V. Affolder took baton 1 sec ahead of Hasty. All they needed was a 4:10 and the DMR record was for the taking but Affolder ran first 800 conservatively at 208 with Hasty just hanging on his shoulder. Slow 800 allowed both L.I. Teams to close the 3 or 4 second gap. Hasty took off around 600 to go. Gatewood passed Affolder. Top 3 teams got # 2,3, and 4 all time.

St Anthony’s beat LV for second. Both teams are gonna have a great DMR next year again. They are both graduating one senior.

I actually thought Valley won the 400m split just eye test; interesting they were tied.

It was a great race though. Nice kick by Hasty at the end.

What else is Hasty running for NBNI?

W wrote:

What else is Hasty running for NBNI?

2 mile

LV’s A team set a new national record of 17:01.82 for 4xmile indoors.

LV’s B team won the first heat and it put them in 6th in the two heats combined

http://ny.milesplit.com/meets/294109/results/570281/raw#.WqQwiCJOnYU

Loudoun Valley won the 4x800 and set the new Armory record

After the disappointment of "only" a third in last evening's DMR (in a superb 10:00.58), Connor Wells, Colton Bogucki, and Sam Affolder came back with class and real grit, joined by an equally gutty Jacob Hunter, to bring Loudoun Valley two national championships on Saturday -- including one all-time #1 4x1 Mile (17:01.82) and, I think, one all-time #2 4x800 (7:39.30). And the Loudoun Valley "B" team in the 4x1 Mile got 6th in the finals, too (17:45.71). Most impressive!

While Brodey Hasty and Brentwood TC, and Mason Gatewood and St. Anthony's TC, have great cause to celebrate their DMR results with gusto, the Loudoun Valley third-first-first in championship races, in LESS THAN 24 HOURS, deserves the main spotlight.

The hype going into this meet was right where I expected it -- what with the "Would Loudoun Valley win three golds?" talk -- and it was more or less justified, but Marc and Joan Hunter's boys are more than justified in celebrating their outrageous weekend successes on the national stage. Especially given the fact that they put Friday evening's relative downer behind them, slept on it, came to the Armory focused, and then blew the socks off of their competition twice on Saturday. TWICE they said they're #1 -- winning the 4x1 Mile by over 28 secs and the 4x800 by over 2 secs -- despite fatigue and the pressures of expectation weighing upon them. Brilliant!

Should we be surprised? Not really, because last XC season they proved their cool for an entire season and didn't let the target on their backs interfere with getting the job done, big time. This is just an extension of that mindset.

I look forward to Brodey's 2-mile on Sunday. Who knows -- maybe he will be the boys' distance performer of the meet, but Loudoun Valley deserves team-oriented accolades, for certain.

Great athletic performance by LVHS Kudos! And disappointed in the tweets and comments made by Affolder. Thumbs down.

Not impressed with the smack though by Affolder wrote:

Great athletic performance by LVHS Kudos! And disappointed in the tweets and comments made by Affolder. Thumbs down.

His comment in the interview was kind of dumb, but what was wrong with his tweet? Someone said that he was running slow to keep Brodey off record pace. Affolder said that if Brodey wanted the record, he was free to go for it. Seems completely reasonable to me.

what was wrong with the tweet? wrote:

Not impressed with the smack though by Affolder wrote:

Great athletic performance by LVHS Kudos! And disappointed in the tweets and comments made by Affolder. Thumbs down.

His comment in the interview was kind of dumb, but what was wrong with his tweet? Someone said that he was running slow to keep Brodey off record pace. Affolder said that if Brodey wanted the record, he was free to go for it. Seems completely reasonable to me.

Well that would be a dumb race tactic. Run slow so that another can't get the record? Makes sense. And that was not what is tweet said or implied. Brodey was after the win. The record was secondary. It is a smart race tactic to sit in. He respected Affolder's talent. Smack talk is cocky. Hasty and his team aren't whining about not getting the record.

Not impressed with the smack though by Affolder wrote:

what was wrong with the tweet? wrote:

His comment in the interview was kind of dumb, but what was wrong with his tweet? Someone said that he was running slow to keep Brodey off record pace. Affolder said that if Brodey wanted the record, he was free to go for it. Seems completely reasonable to me.

Well that would be a dumb race tactic. Run slow so that another can't get the record? Makes sense. And that was not what is tweet said or implied. Brodey was after the win. The record was secondary. It is a smart race tactic to sit in. He respected Affolder's talent. Smack talk is cocky. Hasty and his team aren't whining about not getting the record.

Typo: Not what the tweet said or implied. If you read the full tweet and listened to the interview you get different impression.

Not impressed with the smack though by Affolder wrote:

what was wrong with the tweet? wrote:

His comment in the interview was kind of dumb, but what was wrong with his tweet? Someone said that he was running slow to keep Brodey off record pace. Affolder said that if Brodey wanted the record, he was free to go for it. Seems completely reasonable to me.

Well that would be a dumb race tactic. Run slow so that another can't get the record? Makes sense. And that was not what is tweet said or implied. Brodey was after the win. The record was secondary. It is a smart race tactic to sit in. He respected Affolder's talent. Smack talk is cocky. Hasty and his team aren't whining about not getting the record.

Look at the tweet he was responding to. It very bluntly accuses him of "refusing to pace Hasty".

Like I said on the other thread, what kind of runner is so stupid that he would offer himself as a pacer, in a championship final, to a faster runner on an opposing team? It makes perfect sense for him to slow the race down. Forcing a slower pace and hoping to kick was the only way he was going to win, given that he was already in second when receiving the baton.

Not impressed with the smack though by Affolder wrote:

what was wrong with the tweet? wrote:

His comment in the interview was kind of dumb, but what was wrong with his tweet? Someone said that he was running slow to keep Brodey off record pace. Affolder said that if Brodey wanted the record, he was free to go for it. Seems completely reasonable to me.

Well that would be a dumb race tactic. Run slow so that another can't get the record? Makes sense. And that was not what is tweet said or implied. Brodey was after the win. The record was secondary. It is a smart race tactic to sit in. He respected Affolder's talent. Smack talk is cocky. Hasty and his team aren't whining about not getting the record.

It would be a dumb race tactic. No one other than some rando on Twitter is claiming otherwise. I'm just reporting on what the original tweet said, not claiming that it was correct.

Not sure why it would be Affolder's job to set the pace for Brodey. So yeah, if he wanted the record, he should have gone out and got it.

Affolder would have felt that his DMR lead at the handoff likely wasn't nearly big enough to make victory possible against a 4:00.05 miler. And that would have been a fair assessment. Unfortunately, by easing up, he let St. Anthony's back in the race, not just Brodey Hasty, and the tactics especially backfired when St. Anthony's grabbed second. Hasty pretty much had it wrapped up at the handoff, based on his performance record.

But maybe Affolder's errors - and he knew he'd under-performed - allowed him to have the physical strength to double-up the following day in high fashion. And maybe that Friday embarrassment also steeled him mentally to deliver on Saturday, in a way that wouldn't have happened had Loudoun Valley crushed it in the DMR.

Yes, as indicated by their 28-sec slaughtering of the field in the 4xMile, Loudoun Valley would have won that race even if Affolder hadn't recovered from a killer effort on Friday evening, but remember that with slightly fresher legs on Saturday, he contributed to a national record that possibly wouldn't have happened otherwise. National record!! I hope he realizes this.

And then he contributed to their #2 all-time 4x800 later the same day - #2 all-time!! - in another brilliant team showing that maybe wouldn't have been possible had he worn himself out battling, really battling, on Friday.

So, then, one can argue that Affolder's dissapointing Friday led to two outrageous victories/relay times on Saturday. A "mere" third-place DMR may have been a blessing in disguise that paved the way to two wins ranking #1 and then #2 all-time.

Loudoun Valley stated in interviews that the DMR was their main focus at NBNI, but they have still walked away from the national championships with stunning, and I do mean stunning, results.

Affolder will live and learn. He's going to be a target, and only some of it is justified. SOME of it. And how old is he again?? Oops, he's not a perfect high school junior! He's been a good interview over and over again this past fall and winter. So he stumbled a bit. Live and learn...followed by a rise to even greater heights. I hope!

Two thumbs up on your post. I agree that it is a live and learn. That is exactly whyI pointed it out. Smack talk is not cool.

ThatEpicMania wrote:

It is statistically less white when compared to the US population as a whole and is nearly a quarter foreign born. While Loudoun isn't as diverse as an inner city, it is certainly not exclusively white. LVHS is more homogenized than the average school in the district (~80 percent white) but it is also in the more rural part of the county.

Loudoun is rich and subsequently expensive as hell though; can't deny that.

PLEASE don't bring facts into a conversation here. They might skew someone's preconceived ideas.