fa;lskjf;aslkdfj wrote:
brickrunnin wrote:
^This
You guys are awesome trolls, but we have seen this one too many times before.
Maybe they're just ignorant. 22 mph is fast even on a treadmill.
fa;lskjf;aslkdfj wrote:
brickrunnin wrote:
^This
You guys are awesome trolls, but we have seen this one too many times before.
Maybe they're just ignorant. 22 mph is fast even on a treadmill.
It's better to look at Bolt's top speed, not his average speed. His top speed was 27 mph I believe. So I'm skeptical of her claim that Tom Cruise is hitting 30-31
Bullet_Proof wrote:
Apparently people lie on national television about their running speed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPMgEuo5FqgA quick Google search to compare her alleged 22 MPH to Usain Bolt's 100 m top speed shows that she would be right there with Usain.
Bolt's average speed over the course of his 2009 Berlin 100 m race was 37.58 km/h or 23.35 mph.
"22 miles an hour for 5 seconds".
Um, no.
I'm not supporting the actress here, but your argument is flawed.
Bolt's AVERAGE speed was 23.35. His initial speed was zero and for the first few seconds of the race, he was accelerating up to speed. His top speed was far higher.
This is no different than Paul Ryan's "2:50" marathon (really 4:01) or all the people who claim they ran at 4 or 5 minute mile in PE or the presidential fitness test. To people not attuned to running, numbers mean nothing because they don't have accurate points of reference in their heads.
Everyone knows how fast 22 MPH is in a car because people drive that fast all the time. Most people have no idea how fast 22 MPH is you are running because they have very little experience running and judging how fast they are running.
In this case, I doubt she was intentionally lying about her speed. She may be mixing up numbers because she has no real point of reference. Or as others have said, she may have seen the fastest time in KPH on a treadmill and misunderstood it. Or she may have tried to do some sort of minutes/mile conversion in her head and messed up the math. With no points of reference, she can make huge errors and not realize it. With non-runners there's almost always some sort of mistake in the times they claim.
I know this is going to rankle your racist heart but the BLACK Panther movie has broken records. Actors are going to continue to be getting paid bigly sums of money.
John Utah wrote:
One of the best byproducts of the cultural and technological shift away from traditional movies and TV is, and will be, the big pay cuts for actresses and actors an Hollywood. They will get paid just like the rest of us working joes. Might bring a little dose of humility and reality into their lives.
I see the same thing happening with the NFL players as well (but to a lesser degree). Simple matter of supply and demand.
Already has happened in the music biz.
Pretty sure Tom Cruise's people got to her and told her she needed to corroborate that he can run 30 MPH. OT-7s jog at 22MPH.
Anyone with an iota of running experience and knowledge knows this claim is ridiculous.
You've also got to realize that when actors and actresses go out on publicity junkets to stump their films, their P.R. people invent impressive-sounded factoids for them to spout for a worshipful and unquestioning press, and a gullible public. Among the thigh-slappers I've heard over the years is that after Jake LaMotta trained him for Raging Bull, Robert De Niro was one of the top 20 middleweights in the world (Don't forget, he also lifted weights "for five hours a day" to play Max Cady in Cape Fear); Peter Strauss was running 4:30 miles on the set of The Jericho Mile; The cast of Charlie's Angels trained 8 hours a day with martial arts grandmasters; And Charlize Theron was regularly beating the hell out of the stuntmen on the set of Atomic Blonde.
Since there's no wind resistance, running 22 mph on a treadmill is like running with a 22 mph tailwind.
Heck, I'm a no-talent distance runner, and I can probably run 22 mph if I had +9.8 m/s wind assistance. All I need to do is find an uncalibrated treadmill that can display that speed.
critical leg speed velociraptor take off wrote:
fa;lskjf;aslkdfj wrote:
You guys are awesome trolls, but we have seen this one too many times before.
Maybe they're just ignorant. 22 mph is fast even on a treadmill.
How many treadmills will go to 22 mph?
Bullet_Proof wrote:
Apparently people lie on national television about their running speed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPMgEuo5FqgA quick Google search to compare her alleged 22 MPH to Usain Bolt's 100 m top speed shows that she would be right there with Usain.
Bolt's average speed over the course of his 2009 Berlin 100 m race was 37.58 km/h or 23.35 mph.
"22 miles an hour for 5 seconds".
Um, no.
I am not even sure I buy 22 mph for 5 seconds.
I like that Kimmel pushed back on Cruise running 30 mph.
What gets me is so many actors and actresses who run in movies do not run like anyone I think I have ever seen run in real life. They are so conscious of what they look like that they look fake.
22mph on a treadmill is 2:43 minutes per mile or 40.3 seconds for a 400
Van niekerk's world record is 2:53 minutes per mile.
No one on this board can keep up with van niekerk for any amount of time at his 400 pace
I'm a slightly above-average sprinter and usually split ~3.3 for a flying 30. This is equivalent to 30 ft/sec, or ~20.4 mph. My fastest flying 30 is 3.22, which is still under 21 mph. I usually run in the low 12s for the 100, though I have (barely) broken 12 a few times.
I've only personally come across three women who might be able to outsprint me. They are all phenomenally talented D1 athletes who've been training for years, and their running form is completely different than any actress I've seen.
She needs to put up or shut up. I am willing to bet $50K that she cannot beat me in either a 60 or a 100 meter sprint, and she can train as much as she wants. Just name a time and place, and I'm ready.
TruthIsMalleable wrote:
Peter Strauss was running 4:30 miles on the set of The Jericho Mile
At least that's a lot more believable than this 22 mph claim.
If you're a guy, a 4:30 mile may make you the fastest guy in your high school, but you won't be winning any state championships with that time.
A 22 mph top speed, on the other hand, will get you to the Olympics if you're a woman.
It was known that Peter Strauss was a pretty good club runner who had about a 4:15 -teens mile PR. Robin Williams was a 1:58 800 runner. Not all actors are stiffs. However this woman probably 22 KPH.
TruthIsMalleable wrote:
Anyone with an iota of running experience and knowledge knows this claim is ridiculous.
You've also got to realize that when actors and actresses go out on publicity junkets to stump their films, their P.R. people invent impressive-sounded factoids for them to spout for a worshipful and unquestioning press, and a gullible public. Among the thigh-slappers I've heard over the years is that after Jake LaMotta trained him for Raging Bull, Robert De Niro was one of the top 20 middleweights in the world (Don't forget, he also lifted weights "for five hours a day" to play Max Cady in Cape Fear); Peter Strauss was running 4:30 miles on the set of The Jericho Mile; The cast of Charlie's Angels trained 8 hours a day with martial arts grandmasters; And Charlize Theron was regularly beating the hell out of the stuntmen on the set of Atomic Blonde.
You dragged out a video from October 2016 to complain about this?
I think the real question is how accurate treadmills are, and the answer is not very.
[quote]knower of stuff wrote:
It was known that Peter Strauss was a pretty good club runner who had about a 4:15 -teens mile PR. Robin Williams was a 1:58 800 runner. Not all actors are stiffs.
However this woman probably 22 KPH.
Okay, I stand corrected about Peter Strauss in Jericho Mile. He did have a believably lean and sinewy mid-d physique in that film, and impressive form as well. (although his knee lift was a bit low.)
However, there's way no that actress got anywhere close to 22mph on a treadmill, for any amount of time. Even 22Kph would be a stretch for her.
No problem. I think Strauss was a couple of years and 7-8 lbs. past his best fitness in the film. That girl actress said for 5 seconds, maybe she held 22 KPH which is about a 62 second 400 pace for 5 seconds. She doesn't look like an obese pig and may have ran in high school or played soccer, etc. So not out of the realm. Also probably set the grade at 0% when someone on a treadmill is supposed to set it to 1% to offset the lack of wind resistance generated by running "22 MPH." So that would probably be more like a 64-second 400 effort. Just showing how it's at least possible she ran 64-second pace for 5 seconds. A 64 second 400 would probably kick her ass but maybe she could manage to break 80.
The fastest females run at 24 mph. While her claims are highly unlikely they are possible for a talented athlete. However, 22 mph for 5 seconds is a difficult feat and I'm inclined to believe she's lying. Maybe if she hit 22 for a split second. And please don't make the amateur mistake of taking the average speed for a 100m, it's useless data. Top speed for Bolt was 27.7 mph
I remember Robby Benson made a movie about Billy Mills and he thought he was a good distance runner (from making the movie).
He entered some race and got on the front line with some REAL runners and his running career ended about 10 seconds after the gun went off.
I tried it today. Treadmill max is 15mph which I held for 10 seconds but got scared. There is no way other than a limited number of women in the world could hit 22mph on a treadmill. I was a 50 second 400 runner a few years back and I can’t do it. We should recruit her for the US team next year. Oh and 50+ yer old Cruise couldn’t hit 22 mph let alone 30 mph, even 20 years ago.
I’m a D2 female runner. Our coach explicitly told us not to visit LetsRun forums.
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