Are you kidding me? The "everyone is a winner" mantra now extends to the Olympics - Germany and Canada tie for 2-man gold.

paul72 wrote:

it gets to be splitting hairs past one hundreds of a second-interesting in the '72 games in Munich swimming was determined by thousanths-but an American lost by 2 one thousanths of a second to a Swede Gunnar Larsson-a fingernail-rules were changed to 1/100 ths afterwards; I believed most sports after followed this pattern, though timing technology by the late '60s could measure much smaller differences; if you have to go in lower increments to decide it should be a tie in my opinion! It doesn't happen very often, but it is kinda cool with 2 winners!

Swimming does not go to the 1/1000ths because they length of each lane might be slightly different enough so it goes to 1/100th only.

let's state the obvious wrote:

I sometimes wonder, when I read posts like this, is rojo

(i) retarded or

(ii) enjoys trolling his own message board?

what do you think? I don't know him well enough.

It could be both...

The Fokus wrote:

rojo wrote:

Is anyone watching this on tape delay on NBC. I can't believe everyone just celebrated when they tied for gold. Isn't the point of sport to beat everyone else?

I think it would be incredible tv is they had them do a runoff like Felix - Tarmoh.

You remain a complete idiot.

Uh oh. You better watch out. More than racism on these boards, more than the constant misogyny, more than liberal viewpoints. The Brojo don’t like being called names.

I agree with others that this should be called a tie and that timing for bobsled should not go beyond the hundredths for at least a couple reasons. For example, the grooves in which the sleds are pushed wear down over the course of the event and can certainly affect a run by a thousandths. As far as an extra run, if four runs can't decide it then why should it be determined by a fifth run? They used to break a tie by choosing the team with the fastest individual run but later decided that wasn't a good way.

All that said, at the end of the run they are going around 87mph . That's about 38 cm/hundredth of a second (if my math is correct) which is arguably a fast enough rate to discern placement down to the thousandths or further if there are no other particular reasons effecting the accuracy and fairness. For example, in swimming I think there's the idea that the finishing pads can only be lined up to an accuracy which wouldn't allow for confident timing beyond the hundredths. What if lane 1 is 2mm shorter than lane 8? Swimmers are going around 2mm/thousandths of a second at the end so there would be a good chance of error if timing so precisely. (Please correct me if I'm wrong on this.)

In running, we move fast enough and distance can be measured precisely enough that I believe we allow discerning competitor finishes down to the the ten thousandths when they show those weird photo finish pics. (The timing system goes down to the twenty-thousandths I think but results only determined to the ten thousandths.)

So what's it like to go through life outraged by every little thing?

Here's the real question. Almost all the snowboard events are now being done by trick skiers too, and the skiers are better at all of them. The snowboarders go slower, they fall over half the time, and they don't get as much air. Their freestyle aerial event is especially a joke compared to the skiers. In the slopestyle and half pipe the skiers land backwards easily.

So the real question is, what is snowboarding still doing in the olympics? It has been proven inferior.

All events that rely on judges to determine scores should be abolished from Olympics. The people "competing" in those sports are great athletes, but that doesn't make it a competition.

@rojo wrote:

So what's it like to go through life outraged by every little thing?

Exhausting, hence the state of this website.

He has no energy left to update/look after it.

Hardly. A snowboarder just won the Super G gold.

Bad Wigins wrote:

Here's the real question. Almost all the snowboard events are now being done by trick skiers too, and the skiers are better at all of them. The snowboarders go slower, they fall over half the time, and they don't get as much air. Their freestyle aerial event is especially a joke compared to the skiers. In the slopestyle and half pipe the skiers land backwards easily.

So the real question is, what is snowboarding still doing in the olympics? It has been proven inferior.

If anything, this is a case of antiquated rules that caused the tie, not a new age, snowflake scenario, like you're trying to frame it.

Nice try though.

notafatty wrote:

GET OFF MY LAWN!

He’s over 40 now, I think these types of things are just a reflex at this point.

Rojo, yes, we are kidding you. Isn't it funny. ha ha ha ah ah aha ha funny. hha

Rojo is best ignored

rojo wrote:

Is anyone watching this on tape delay on NBC. I can't believe everyone just celebrated when they tied for gold. Isn't the point of sport to beat everyone else?

I think it would be incredible tv is they had them do a runoff like Felix - Tarmoh.

this from the guy who thought you should vote for george bush because he was a swell guy and they were neighbors.

It's impossible to run 2 Bobsleds simultaneously, so the race has to be run against a clock, with the fastest team winning the gold. The accuracy of the clocks is such that they time to the 100th of a second. Within that remarkable precision, these two sleds were the fastest, with exactly the same time. It's absurd to compare this with "everyone a winner". Two sleds were faster than all other sleds. The rules grant them both the gold medal. This is extraordinarily rare and it's not worth changing the rules to establish a run-off to deal with it.

Too many runners have an inferiority complex that leads them to take bizarre delight in cutting down all other sports.

Why dont they do a tie breaker similar to long and triple jump? First tie breaker is the second best attempt. Second tie breaker is the winner of the third best attempt, etc.

It would be extremely unlikely to have two sleds do 4 identical runs. At least you could knock out the vast majority of the already very few ties this way amd award a winner.

rojo wrote:

Is anyone watching this on tape delay on NBC. I can't believe everyone just celebrated when they tied for gold. Isn't the point of sport to beat everyone else?

I think it would be incredible tv is they had them do a runoff like Felix - Tarmoh.

There are still only three medals awarded so no not everyone is getting a trophy here.

Rojo is the ultimate LR message board troll.

WDC Runner wrote:

They used to break a tie by choosing the team with the fastest individual run but later decided that wasn't a good way.

I think that is a great way. It's better than the way we break cross country ties.

Americans don't like ties. It's part of our heritage of statistical ignorance.

World football rarely breaks ties, knowing that going to PKs doesn't do a good job of determining the best team.

American football has this to break that used to be heavily determined by a coin toss. Now it less heavily, but still heavily decided by a coin toss and has overtime rules so confusing a casual fan can't explain them.

American baseball used to have ties, but now will stretch games on for hours to break a tie.

NHL had ties, American fans complained, they now make the third period of games kind of boring.

Basketball never had ties as far as I know