How would you rank the ivies?

How about the running experience? Who develops runners well? Has a good team culture? Who’s improving?

I’m running wrote:

How about the running experience? Who develops runners well? Has a good team culture? Who’s improving?

I've seen the Cornell squads down here in NYC several times and they seem to project a wonderful team vibe.

I've also been to many Heps (Ivy championship) meets and Cornell seems to be the only team that consistently enters full squads on both the men's and women's sides. (There's a squad-size limitation that others don't seem to reach consistently.)

To add to that - I've been to most of the Ivy campuses, and Cornell and Dartmouth have some wonderful trails to run on that are much better than the other schools. Cornell in particular has miles - a really great place to train.

The person who said that Cornell has a "public school" attached to it is not really correct. Cornell is indeed New York's land frant institution and thus for some of the colleges (ag, engineering maybe?) NY residents pay in-state tuition. However its not easier for them to be admitted, and a degree conferred from one of those colleges is no different than from say the Arts ans Sciences college.

All the Ivy schools are great, it depends on what programs you are interested and what environment you want.

For undergraduates, Princeton and Dartmouth provides true liberal arts small school experience and school spirit for face painters.

For those looking for brand name and proper pan handlers, Harvard, Columbia and Yale.

Ivy or bust: Penn, Cornell, Brown.

Apples to oranges wrote:

This is very dumb. Any and all are prestigious. They all have lots of opportunities and perks. Don’t be daft.

However some might be a better fit for you than others. Tell us about your desired area of study, running goals, style of learning, etc and we can help you find the best fit. (Do you expect to be in a position where you have to choose between multiple Ivies)?

Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth, Penn are not even remotely comparable to Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Columbia. Only their grads think otherwise.

overall the Ivies are kinda nostalgic, peaked during the JFK, 60's era. now it's Cali, U.C.s, Silicon Valley, Hollywood, Frisco....

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I'd create a list where I put the best one at number one, then rank the others in descending order of merit beneath it.

Odd question.

The thing about rankings is that they really rate graduate level education. Even when they pretend to rate undergrad education.

Everyone knows that at Harvard you'll be taught by researchers and teaching assistants. Is that really what you want to do with your undergrad education?

Look to Princeton, Dartmouth and Brown for institutions that focus on undergrads. That's so much more important than how many Nobel winners some mega university has.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/undergraduate-teaching

Actually most Harvard classes are not taught by researchers and TAs. This is a misconception. Some intro classes are taught by TAs, the rest are usually taught by professors.

Literally wrote:

I'd create a list where I put the best one at number one, then rank the others in descending order of merit beneath it.

Odd question.

Okay, I LOLed.

You are dumb wrote:

Let’s face it: Cornell > Princeton >>> Harvard for engineering. It completely depends on the program.

Quite Wrong.

For engineering:

Cornell > Princeton >>>> Columbia ~Harvard ~ Penn >>>> Yale > Brown ~ Dartmouth

Still for undergrad engineering I would choose Harvard, Princeton, Columbia, Penn over Cornell. Department strength is not the sole consideration when choosing undergrad, like it is for grad school.

Source: Princeton engineering grad

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Paul Allen says wrote:

Yale is #1. But you have to be into that whole Yale thing.

:)

(I had to explain this to a Yale friend. What do they teach those kids?)

There's some truth to the idea that the Ivy League is somewhat of a Northeastern obsession. In South Carolina, for example, it will mean a lot more to your business networking life to have gone to The Citadel than to Brown or Cornell.

What Kind Of wrote:

There's some truth to the idea that the Ivy League is somewhat of a Northeastern obsession. In South Carolina, for example, it will mean a lot more to your business networking life to have gone to The Citadel than to Brown or Cornell.

Fair point. But then you'd live in South Carolina.

For what it's worth, I went to a top tier Ivy, live in a deep blue city and the Citadel impresses me as much as Cornell. The grads are at least disciplined and don't leave with a horrendous inferiority complex.

Avocado's Number wrote:

Paul Allen says wrote:

Yale is #1. But you have to be into that whole Yale thing.

:)

(I had to explain this to a Yale friend. What do they teach those kids?)

Yale, if you don't mind being in one of the most segregated cities in Amerikkka.

Other side of the tracks wrote:

Avocado's Number wrote:

:)

(I had to explain this to a Yale friend. What do they teach those kids?)

Yale, if you don't mind being in one of the most segregated cities in Amerikkka.

(Sigh . .. .) That whole Yale thing: